What's crazy, impractical and bigger than a Maus...

Started by Leon, 02 December 2013, 02:55:59 AM

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Ithoriel

Quote from: Techno on 02 December 2013, 05:01:09 PM
"We have a special rule at the club for those ?"  :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.

Special "Ratte" rules

A "Ratte" counts all terrain except roads as impassable terrain. Any road used by a "Ratte" counts as a ploughed field for subsequent movement.

The 240mm guns of the "Ratte" have a minimum range of (diagonal distance across the playing surface + 10cms).

At the start of every player turn roll 1D6 for each "Ratte"

On a roll of 1 to 5 the ludicrous weight of the Ratte puts such strain on the engines that the "Ratte" is immobilised for the rest of the game

On a roll of 6+ the strain on the engines and transmission causes problems similar to those encountered by early Panthers but with much more catastrophic effects due to the vastly increased amounts of fuel and ammunition on board. The engines catch fire and the"Ratte" explodes. Remove the "Ratte" model and replace it with a similar sized crater model which counts as impassable terrain to all troop types.

Modifiiers - an immobilised "Ratte" adds 5 to the die roll.

How does that sound Phil??

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Ithoriel

The Ratte was designed to carry two motorcycles for scouting duties and (iirc) up to twenty infantry.

I believe it should have secondary armament of a 128mm gun and 8 x 20mm AA guns (4 single barrel and a flakvierling).

Stats for Chain of Command anyone?  :d
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Techno


fsn

Wonderfully brutal looking thing - but enough about Leon.

Of course, if one plays a 1946 game, the British would be armed with a new tank ...
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Wulf

Quote from: fsn on 02 December 2013, 08:26:23 PM
Of course, if one plays a 1946 game, the British would be armed with a new tank ...
The Black Prince!

GordonY

That things awesomeness knows no bounds, but I'm a bit concerned of the amount of them that will be ordered.

Leon

Quote from: Wulf on 02 December 2013, 07:16:20 PM
Is there a Maus, or any of the E-series, available in 10mm?

;) http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7248.0.html

Quote from: Matt of Munslow on 02 December 2013, 07:33:06 PM
(don't tell me its going to be £150 though)

We're hoping to get it around the £30 mark of thereabouts.  It'll depend entirely on how much resin it takes up and the costs of that.

Quote from: Ithoriel on 02 December 2013, 07:57:57 PM
I believe it should have secondary armament of a 128mm gun and 8 x 20mm AA guns (4 single barrel and a flakvierling).

Yep, the 128mm is in between the two main naval guns, and then the quad AA's go on the two raised sections at the rear of the model.

Quote from: GordonY on 02 December 2013, 08:31:03 PM
That things awesomeness knows no bounds, but I'm a bit concerned of the amount of them that will be ordered.

From the interest it generated just sitting there as a master model, I reckon if we get a painted one on display, we'll shift a fair few of them at the shows.  Whether that's to the 10mm crowd, or 15/20/28mm guys wanting something a little different, it's all sales.  One thing in it's favour is that you don't look at it and think 'Oh, a 10mm tank..', the size of it means it could be used in most scales without complaint.
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Fenton

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Wulf

Quote from: Leon on 02 December 2013, 08:53:17 PM
;) http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7248.0.html
Oh, nice...
QuoteOne thing in it's favour is that you don't look at it and think 'Oh, a 10mm tank..', the size of it means it could be used in most scales without complaint.
Then you look at the size of the crew hatches... (I'm already doing that with some 10/12mm tanks...)

Leon

Quote from: Fenton on 02 December 2013, 08:55:44 PM
Do you have a rough cost idea at all?

;)

Quote from: Leon on 02 December 2013, 08:53:17 PM
We're hoping to get it around the £30 mark of thereabouts.  It'll depend entirely on how much resin it takes up and the costs of that.
www.pendraken.co.uk - Now home to over 10,000 products, including nearly 5000 items for 10mm wargaming, plus MDF bases, Battlescale buildings, I-94 decals, Litko Gaming Aids, Militia Miniatures, Raiden Miniatures 1/285th aircraft, Red Vectors MDF products, Vallejo paints, Tiny Tin Troops flags and much, much more!

fsn

Quote from: Wulf on 02 December 2013, 08:28:21 PM
The Black Prince!

Oh yes! YES! YESSSSS! YESSSSSSSSS!

May I have a Black Prince please Leon?  :D
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Fenton

Quote from: fsn on 02 December 2013, 09:23:37 PM
Oh yes! YES! YESSSSS! YESSSSSSSSS!

May I have a Black Prince please Leon?  :D

Oh god here we go again
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Leon

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Ithoriel

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Wulf

The Tortoise was fairly impractical, just a bunker buster for bunkers that never appeared. The Black Prince was actually a fairly sensible, if unimaginative, idea.

fsn

I think if I wanted a Black Prince, I'd probably just marry a Comet turret with a Churchill hull. I know the Black Prince was wider than a Churchill, but probably not noticeable in 10mm, and they never got to production, so who's to say the turret wouldn't have looked very Comet-y?

I'm sure Leon would oblige, if only fpr the peace. :D
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11 votes in the 2022 Painting Competition (Double figures!)
2023 - the year of Gerald:
2024 Painting Competition - Runner-Up!

Ithoriel

Quote from: Wulf on 02 December 2013, 09:32:59 PM
The Tortoise was fairly impractica

This is a thread primarily about the "Ratte" - impractical would seem to be appropriate :)
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Hertsblue

Quote from: Ithoriel on 02 December 2013, 07:35:29 PM
Special "Ratte" rules

A "Ratte" counts all terrain except roads as impassable terrain. Any road used by a "Ratte" counts as a ploughed field for subsequent movement.

The 240mm guns of the "Ratte" have a minimum range of (diagonal distance across the playing surface + 10cms).

At the start of every player turn roll 1D6 for each "Ratte"

On a roll of 1 to 5 the ludicrous weight of the Ratte puts such strain on the engines that the "Ratte" is immobilised for the rest of the game

On a roll of 6+ the strain on the engines and transmission causes problems similar to those encountered by early Panthers but with much more catastrophic effects due to the vastly increased amounts of fuel and ammunition on board. The engines catch fire and the"Ratte" explodes. Remove the "Ratte" model and replace it with a similar sized crater model which counts as impassable terrain to all troop types.

Modifiiers - an immobilised "Ratte" adds 5 to the die roll.

How does that sound Phil??



You've forgotten:

On a roll of 3+ the Ratte strands itself on the nearest hillock and remains seesawing gently until the end of the game.

On reaching the nearest major river the Ratte halts - regardless of whether or not there are bridges available.
When you realise we're all mad, life makes a lot more sense.

www.rulesdepot.net

Steeleye

I seem to remember that the front track guards on a Black Prince slope down as well so a Comet turret on a Churchill chassis wouldn't really look right even in 10mm.

If there's going to be a '1946' range we'll want Mk I Cents and Churchill Kangaroos too...basically an APC with six inches of frontal armour!