Modern Kit

[Orcs]

Sounds good to me
In the beginning there was plastic card and glue
And behold a Centurion was created

has all the makings of a new religion

With FSN as the High Priest

[Leon]

What would be the difference to Pendraken between not-kickstarting a mechanised army (e.g. 1980's Soviet) and not-kickstarting a pre-mechanised army such as the Byzantines?

Timescales, outlay and simplicity.  For something like the Byzantines, we can do the research, put together the potential range list and off we go, same as we did with the Mongol one.  For Modern stuff, it requires two designers instead of one, long discussions on which stuff is / isn't going into the range, and it all becomes more expensive.  Plus there's a good argument that it's almost impossible to do a 'complete' modern range, even when focusing on a particular conflict.

[Sean67]

Hi Leon thanks for the reply.
My thinking on 67-73 Arab isreali was that a lot of the vehicles can be got from your other ranges. I won't write them out again but both Arab and Isreali vehicles are pretty well covered. It would only be the Infantry mainly the Arab league and Syrian because they used Soviet equipment whereas the Jordanians used predominantly British Equipment.
Just a quick question the M3 with tilt does it have the benches inside or is it empty?
Regards
Sean

[fsn]

Timescales, outlay and simplicity.  For something like the Byzantines, we can do the research, put together the potential range list and off we go, same as we did with the Mongol one.  For Modern stuff, it requires two designers instead of one, long discussions on which stuff is / isn't going into the range, and it all becomes more expensive.  Plus there's a good argument that it's almost impossible to do a 'complete' modern range, even when focusing on a particular conflict.

Thank you.

[Leon]

Just a quick question the M3 with tilt does it have the benches inside or is it empty?

It's got the benches in it.

[Sean67]

Cheers Leon
So benches but no machine gun ring.
Regards
Sean

[GrumpyOldMan]

Hello All

I'm certainly up for doing some modern infantry types...
Cheers - Phil

I don't think we should go on endlessly about vehicles and tanks but just let Techno get on with the Northern Warlord - ahem, Korean War Chinese and North Korean Infantry .

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[fsn]

Agreed.

[Rob]

That leaves us back at the first post. 


@ FSN; other people may shamelessly prime you and set you off on a road of frustration and yearning for the perfect tank, but I wouldn't do that I only have your best interests at heart. 

However I am not sure whether you know this but Centurion (bless its cotton socks  ) was not alone! It had a stable mate whose job was to act in an over-watch role similarly to the Firefly/Sherman relationship. It was called the Conqueror  and was to counter the nasty IS3s and T10s (T10!  Nobody has mentioned the T10!  ).

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3c2_1330189892 (Play loud. 50s version of a hard rock track I think  )

There were not an awful lot made and it disappeared as soon as Chieftain appeared. 


http://www.nationalcoldwarexhibition.org/explore/vehicle.cfm?vehicle=Conqueror

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conqueror_tank

Cheers, Rob 

[fsn]

I like the Conqueror. Always thought of it as a successor to my favourite tank, the Churchill.

First time I've seen it on film. As a child, I spent a lot of time in hospital and my parents brought me pressies when they visited. One of these was a tiny (3" x 3") book - Tanks Book 2 - the modern stuff: Centurion, Ontos, Amx dca, t10, Scorpion, Big Shot (?), FV432, LVTH6, Walker Bulldog, Chieftan and the Conqueror.

From these two books, I learned everything I know about tanks. The Conqueror is "British Tank: weight 65 tons: Max speed 21.3 mph: radius of action 100 miles: crew 4: introduced 1954: Armament - 120mm gun, 2 x 0.3" Browning mgs, 2 x multi barrel smoke dischargers."

Yes, I still have the books. Book 1 was WWII stuff.

Unfortunately the Conqueror never had a run out.

[Hertsblue]

Got to stand in the turret of a Conqueror back in the early sixties. To a fourteen-year-old it was a steel plain with a telegraph pole stuck out the front.

However, as far as the Conqueror is concerned, a "run out" was probably a tad optimistic. A lumber just down the road was probably more realistic.

[fsn]

 

British tank design at its best.

[Rick]

Considering that nobody seems to make any Russian/Soviet airborne stuff in 10-12mm, can I put in a request for a modest 1980's Afghanistan range? BMD1/2, BTR-D, 2s9 Nona, Desantniki and Afghan Infantry would be very, very nice!

[OldenBUA]

Considering that nobody seems to make any Russian/Soviet airborne stuff in 10-12mm, can I put in a request for a modest 1980's Afghanistan range? BMD1/2, BTR-D, 2s9 Nona, Desantniki and Afghan Infantry would be very, very nice!

A very sensible first post, if I may say so. 

And welcome to the forum, I hope you will have a pleasant stay.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Good plan Rick