The Baden Brigade, 1809

[Zippee]

Apologies Zippee, no is the simple answer for the Saxons. Still in bicornes but with the big difference being that they abandoned the hip pack for the backpack. The sword was now worn on a cross belt rather than on the waist belt. There was also an attempt to straighten the round lapels that was not altogether successful.

Indeed, yes the packs and some webbing was updated but in essence the 'uniform' remained as per 1806 - just different enough so you can't use 1806 Prussians 

I'd call that a simple yes (with some changes) not a simple no (with some things staying the same) - horses, courses 

[quasar42]

The French Old Guard uniforms will be fine for 1815 but none of the 1809 French Young Guard or line troops. So does this mean apart from 1812-15 British and Prussians, you will producing 1812-15 French line and young guard? 

The main difference between the French 1809 and 1812 patterns is in the cut of the jacket.  Given the size of the figures and the way they are sculpted the difference is probably not very noticeable and might be fixed in any event with some small conversions. Different people may have different views, but I would be happy to use the 1809 figures in latter battles rather than having to paint hundreds of duplicate figures. There are also always the greatcoat figures.

What would be nice on other hand would be to have some additional poses for the French, loading figure!, skirmishers, some kneeling figures for that last carrée. Also, for Waterloo we would need Carabiniers in cuirass.

[Rob]

The main difference between the French 1809 and 1812 patterns is in the cut of the jacket.  Given the size of the figures and the way they are sculpted the difference is probably not very noticeable and might be fixed in any event with some small conversions. Different people may have different views, but I would be happy to use the 1809 figures in latter battles rather than having to paint hundreds of duplicate figures. There are also always the greatcoat figures.

What would be nice on other hand would be to have some additional poses for the French, loading figure!, skirmishers, some kneeling figures for that last carrée. Also, for Waterloo we would need Carabiniers in cuirass.

I do agree, I was merly "prodding" to see what happened. The armies I am building at the moment are to be 1813 based, which theoretically for French should all have the later uniform. However I do believe that the old uniforms had to wear out first so existing units such as the cohorts and troops in Spain and Italy would all be in the old uniform. It also seems to me new uniforms were in short supply as some recruits seemed to be issued with greatcoats only. In the case of the line infantry a Baudin uniform is a nice to have.
I also agree with the Carabiniers, we do have the line lancer.

Incidentally I was talking to Leon on Saturday about the British. He said we were going to have BOTH pre and post 1812 uniform changes types.

Cheers, Rob