500th anniversary of the Battle of Flodden.

Started by wurrukatte, 09 September 2013, 04:36:24 PM

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Jim Ando

Hi

Visited the battlefield about 10 years ago.

The first thing that struck me was what the hell were the jocks thinking of.

They had a cracking position and they came off  it to attack the English.

Doh !.

Jim

seano1815

Hi
I was on the battlefield walk today, very good really interesting. walking the field was a great experience, the geography surprised me especially on the English side. Listening to Clive's great commentary, and talking with friends its easy to see the disaster unfold. What surprised me, the time the Scots had been there they had not scouted the ground at all. Crazy ~X(
All the best
Sean

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"King Henry VIII was declared the victor" - Henry was hundreds of miles away in France!. The Earl of Surrey, Thomas Howard, commanded the English army at Flodden and his reward was to be reinstated as Duke of Norfolk. 
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Was Catherine of Aragorn at the battle? acting as regent?, I remember reading it somewhere, maybe wrong
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No, she was not present at the battle, but she was acting as regent.

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Henry was a bit cheesed that the home victory, under Catherine's regency, was considerably more outstanding than the Radcliffe and Maconey firework that was the Battle of the Spurs. I happen to think this is one of the best battlefields in Britain to visit. Even the muddy dip where James met his end is still muddy despite the continuous agricultural use.
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11 September 2013, 07:47:17 PM #12 Last Edit: 11 September 2013, 08:15:57 PM by Leon
Quote from: seano1815 on 09 September 2013, 10:30:56 PM
Hi
I was on the battlefield walk today, very good really interesting. walking the field was a great experience, the geography surprised me especially on the English side. Listening to Clive's great commentary, and talking with friends its easy to see the disaster unfold. What surprised me, the time the Scots had been there they had not scouted the ground at all. Crazy ~X(
All the best
Sean

The Bastard Heron was the cannie borderer who led the English on the flank march that compromised the Scots.

James made a last throw to capture Surrey.  see www.flodden.net  



EDIT: Quote fixed.

seano1815

The last act of a desperate man methinks ;) plus the timely arrival of Stanley's division routing James last hope, the old highlanders. The field is well worth a visit
Have a great week
All the best
Sean

RichardJohnstone

I had a tour with Clive on the 15th, couldn't get time off for the actual anniversary sadly. Thought it was a particularly interesting, but entirely tragic, story. If only Hume and Huntley hadn't decided to leave the field how different could things have been! Clive postulated that the Scottish army was actually looking to retreat which led the the terrible idea of moving their giant guns to Branxton Hill. That 'yard of England' cost Scotland more than any other battle in history.  :(

I got a chance to speak to Clive after the tour and told him about my attempt to recreate the battle in 10mm scale, and that my dad was 'forcing' me to play the English which raised a chuckle! A great, if rather windy/rainy day out, but it was certainly authentic!