Pen-drak-en or Pen-drake-n?

Started by Leon, 16 August 2013, 05:18:04 PM

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How do you say it?

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sunjester

Pen-drak-en. Must be true 'cos that's how Dave pronounced it to me back in the mists of time when Leon was but a squalling babe!

Shecky

It's pronounced, "throat wobbler mangrove"

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Given that it's a mix of two unintelligible accents - smoggy and Cornish - any da**d way I want.

:d :D

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Stuff pronunciation, I think my tattoo is spelt wrong.

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No. It's on my forearm, on a scroll that protects Leon's modesty. 
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Leon

Quote from: ianrs54 on 17 August 2013, 07:19:32 AM
Given that it's a mix of two unintelligible accents - smoggy and Cornish - any da**d way I want.

;D

Coming from a scouser...!   ;)

Quote from: fsn on 17 August 2013, 12:10:32 PM
No. It's on my forearm, on a scroll that protects Leon's modesty.  

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Quote from: Shecky on 17 August 2013, 03:26:30 AM
It's pronounced, "throat wobbler mangrove"

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Aquahog

You guys have no idea how compliicated this thread was to read for a non-native speaker. Drak as in accumulate? Drake as in ache? I used to say Pen-drake-n until I heard Henry Hyde use the other form on 'View from the Veranda'.

Techno

Quote from: Aquahog on 20 August 2013, 04:00:13 PM
Drak as in accumulate? Drake as in ache?

Yes, Aquahog.....absolutely correct  :)
(Can't believe you're a non-native speaker from your post !  ;))
Cheers - Phil

get2grips

Quote from: Aquahog on 20 August 2013, 04:00:13 PM
You guys have no idea how compliicated this thread was to read for a non-native speaker. Drak as in accumulate? Drake as in ache? I used to say Pen-drake-n until I heard Henry Hyde use the other form on 'View from the Veranda'.

Hi Aqua,

Your English is really good: wouldn't have known you weren't "home grown".  Hope this helps:

Drak as in "Hack".
In accumulate the "a" sound is a schwa which means it sounds like "uh" as in ago.

Any use?   English is horrible  :)

Aquahog

Thanks guys. I can assure you that it would be extremely easy to place me if you heard my accent.

English is not so bad in its spoken form, but a spelling reform wouldn't hurt I think. Ghoti and all that. :) While I'm wishing for them, could I please have one for Swedish* too?


*E.g. C, Q and W are of no relevance in modern Swedish as they are pronounced as S/K, K and V anyway. Meanwhile we lack letters for some sounds and have to spell them with combinations of consonants e.g. tj and k or stj and sk. The pairs are pronounced the same, of course...

get2grips

Quote from: Aquahog on 21 August 2013, 09:39:08 AM
Thanks guys. I can assure you that it would be extremely easy to place me if you heard my accent.

English is not so bad in its spoken form, but a spelling reform wouldn't hurt I think. Ghoti and all that. :) While I'm wishing for them, could I please have one for Swedish* too?


*E.g. C, Q and W are of no relevance in modern Swedish as they are pronounced as S/K, K and V anyway. Meanwhile we lack letters for some sounds and have to spell them with combinations of consonants e.g. tj and k or stj and sk. The pairs are pronounced the same, of course...

We should all speak Spanish: no grey areas  :)

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Techno

Quote from: Ithoriel on 21 August 2013, 10:13:04 AM
"Shaggy Dog" Story:
... "School Fete Pronounced Success!"   ;D :D :) :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Go and stand in the corner !  ;) :P
(Oh all right.....I had to read it twice !)
Not bad at all. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil.

Techno

Quote from: Aquahog on 21 August 2013, 09:39:08 AM
*E.g. C, Q and W are of no relevance in modern Swedish as they are pronounced as S/K, K and V anyway. Meanwhile we lack letters for some sounds and have to spell them with combinations of consonants e.g. tj and k or stj and sk. The pairs are pronounced the same, of course...

You should try Welsh Aqua !! ;D ;D ;D ;D
(Ian will tell you, you probably shouldn't) ;)
Cheers - Phil


O Dinas Powys

Quote from: Techno on 21 August 2013, 11:04:41 AM
You should try Welsh Aqua !! ;D ;D ;D ;D
(Ian will tell you, you probably shouldn't) ;)
Cheers - Phil

Welsh is phonic and easy  ;)

The consonants only have on sound each, whilst the vowels only have two. Of course some of the letters use two characters for spelling...  :d

Pob hwyl,

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get2grips

Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 21 August 2013, 11:13:19 AM
Welsh is phonic and easy  ;)

The consonants only have on sound each, whilst the vowels only have two. Of course some of the letters use two characters for spelling...  :d

Pob hwyl,

Meirion



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