Spray Varnish

Started by sebigboss79, 15 May 2013, 09:19:20 PM

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sebigboss79

03 June 2013, 01:40:15 PM #15 Last Edit: 03 June 2013, 01:41:48 PM by sebigboss79
Have tried Army Painter Anti Shine and this is the result  >:(
Followed the instructions literally and even slightly warmed the can. Weather is moderate, humidity is no issue.

Bought it as it was cheap but ended up ruining the ruin I bought from Nik ages ago.
Emailed the AP guys what their take is.


GordonY

Tsk, what a mess, you should have spent the extra cash and bought some Testor's Dullcote. Well known to be able to remove the shine from Chrome plate.

fred.

I use the Army Paint anti-shine quite a lot and it has always worked for me.

This looks like a reaction between the AP A-S and the paint on the grey model - the humidity issue is typically more of a frosting of the spray.
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The general help would suggest I oversprayed or went to close. Both I can rule out.

On a sidenote I used the same can again half an hour later without any issues. Was told particularly Army Painter has only "excellent" and "utter rubbish" cans. Did not know they can shift though  :-\

Roy

only ever used GW, 'purity seal' is what i think they call it nowadays', and have only had about two cans in i don't know how many years of gaming [well okay since '93].

don't know how good they compare to other brands - but they certainly have good shelf life.

i've seen this asked before on another forum, but does spray varnish have a used-by date?

- also, if using spray varnish, don't do what i did and have the nozzle aimed at your face [and eyes!] by mistake. it hurts. It Really Hurts! and it's the reason i now wear glasses [probably] 
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sebigboss79

Used GW Purity Seal before. Was "ok". Currently my house rule forbids usage of any evil empire stuff.

Quite busy with new PC so no painting. My research shows ALL spray varnishes are hit or miss which makes my verdict to go for the cheapest stuff more financially sane.

Steve J

Yep, looks like a reaction between the paint Nik used and the spray varnish. We occasionally get this at work when we have to fix models from other companies. Inevitably we have to strip the model back to the bare plastic, metal etc. A real pain in the butt when this happens.

Leman

No longer use spray. Now apply a mix of Vallejo gloss varnish, with a little Vallejo sepia wash mixed in, with a brush. When dry then brush apply Windsor and Newton matt acrylic varnish, leaving some areas gloss, eg. armour. Never ever had clouding/frosting with this method.
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Steve J

I too use brush on lacquer and have had no problems at all.

sebigboss79

Quote from: Steve J on 22 June 2013, 04:47:29 PM
Yep, looks like a reaction between the paint Nik used and the spray varnish. We occasionally get this at work when we have to fix models from other companies. Inevitably we have to strip the model back to the bare plastic, metal etc. A real pain in the butt when this happens.

I bought it in mint condition from Nik and as stated the same paint did not react on other models.

I did not spray too much or too close the can I got is simply crap.

AndyT

Quote from: Leon on 15 May 2013, 09:22:04 PM
I stock the Vallejo ones now, after a customer wanted some, but I haven't heard much feedback for/against them!   ;D

I had them at Glasgow actually, as I'm keeping them as a show product for now.  Shipping aerosols seems to have a few iffy areas, and they're a pain to package anyway!

I mentioned that I prefer the Vallejo gloss spray in a previous thread ages ago but didn't realise you were now stocking them. No chance of sending them by post then?

Leon

Quote from: AndyT on 25 June 2013, 11:57:30 AM
No chance of sending them by post then?

I'm afraid not at the moment, our local Post Office said it's a no-go, so I'll have to check with some couriers and see if there's other options.

If you'll be at Colours in September though, I could pop one on the side for you?
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I wish I could be at Colours but unfortunately (?) I'll be in the sun in Tenerife where it will probably be too warm to paint  ;)

Thanks anyway,
Andy

Leon

Quote from: AndyT on 25 June 2013, 02:55:52 PM
I wish I could be at Colours but unfortunately (?) I'll be in the sun in Tenerife where it will probably be too warm to paint  ;)

Apologies for that (not the sitting in the sun bit!), have you got any mates going along who we could pass an order to?
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AndyT

It seems that your local post office is correct. I've just checked and spray paints are a prohibited product according to the Royal Mail website (unless for medical use).

I have bought a different paint-type aerosol product from another well known online shop recently and had it sent to me in the post so they obviously don't know the rules  :o  You would think that the tell-tale rattling noise would give it away !

I will see if anyone from my local club is going to Colours.

Thanks Leon.

Cheers,
Andy