By Fire and Sword

[Serotonin]

See if you spend the big money you would have got a QRS and a index!   

Theres a QRS on their website.

Also I really dont think £38 is too much for a decent rule set, especially when its such a nice book full of lovely info and pictures too. People pay £50 plus for a console game that will last a few weeks play, so £38 for a rule book seems decent to me.

[barbarian]

Comparing the price of a videogame with a ruleset...
You didn't take in account the minis !!

And the development costs aren't exactly the same.

[Serotonin]

Im not sure what the printing costs of a bound 400 page full colour  hardback rule book are but I cant imagine its that cheap. The point of my comparison was theres a lack of perceived value of rule sets, as if anyone charging more than a fiver for a photocopied pamphlet are taking the piss some what. Id much rather have a bookcase full of books like by Fire and Sword, Black Powder etc. Book are nice objects and lovely to have.

Maybe Im just a sucker for wargame porn.

[freddy326]

I've just got my copy of the rulebook and in my opinion it's worth the money!! I was looking at their skirmish sets as they seem reasonably priced, so will probably end up with a couple of those as well.

[Serotonin]

Yeah the Skirmish sets are good value- I assumed they would be premium priced but when I looked at other 15mm manufacturers the prices were near enough identical, and thats without the bases and flag sheets. Also you get exactly the models you need, and when I priced it up with other companies you were buying more models than you required in order to make units up.

Funny enough I am off out this morning to have a test game with my gaming group. I was lucky enough to get a game with the author at Salute but this will be the first time Ive tried the rules out myself properly.

[nikharwood]

Maybe Im just a sucker for wargame porn.

Me too...I can't stop looking at this, even with the hefty(ish) price tag 

Funny enough I am off out this morning to have a test game with my gaming group. I was lucky enough to get a game with the author at Salute but this will be the first time Ive tried the rules out myself properly.

Excellent - let us know how you get on...

[Steve J]

I found this via the Sam Mustafa site:

http://knightrecoil.blogspot.co.uk/

For those that have or are thinking of getting this, the above overview should prove to be very useful.

[nikharwood]

Thanks, Steve - a useful link 

[OldenBUA]

Right, bought the book while I was in Poland, and some figures as well. Obviously in the wrong scale, but I found out a mate already had a DBR Polish army in 15mm. So it seemed a bit daft to start new armies in another scale. The book is very nice, very good quality and lots of illustrations. Had a test game, and it was interesting, too, though we didn't get to finish it. The approach they have, where uneven forces get compensated by the scenario and/or extra events looks interesting. At least it means that there will be not many battles with equal sides with only the destruction of the enemy as an objective!

Also, it would seem that they will also be present at the Crisis show in Antwerp, so another reason to go there. And possibly play a game and/or buy more stuff.

[TinyTerrain]

Hi Christian,

I hope youve still got these rules ? Ive just bought the rulebook following be introduced to them at Reveille this morning.

I got home at lunchtime, told my missus that Ive made 70 quid on the bring and buy and that I nearly bought a new rulebook with some of the proceeds and she told me that I should have got it! So I jumped back in the car, drove back round the corner to Reveille and picked up the book. Apparently she'll even buy me the minis for Xmas (I am getting worried that shes bought a pair of Jimmy Choos or something and shes trying to sweeten me up before she tells me!)

Havent had a chance to read in detail yet but they are gorgeous. Have you had a chnace to play many games yet?

Cheers,

Craig
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[TinyTerrain]

Hi

For those of you playing By Fire and Sword are you using 15mm, or have you tried it in 10mm.

I am about to start buying armies and I am undecided, should I stick with the rule writers suggestion of 15mm or go with 10mm. Whats the pros and cons of each for this system please?

Cheers,

Craig
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[nikharwood]

I'm about to give in to the temptation of this one - will certainly be doing it in 10mm though 

Just need to get the rulebook to start planning my forces...

[Fenton]

Was talking to some friends about this yesterday who have played, they say the Swedes are almost unstoppable

[nikharwood]

Was talking to some friends about this yesterday who have played, they say the Swedes are almost unstoppable

Ah ok - I was thinking of Polish & Ottomans anyway 

[Fenton]

Much more interesting