Blather, Waffle and Poppycock!

[Ithoriel]

The lunatics on the forum ?

They help keep me sane. (Almost)

Cheers - Phil

Pah! They don't keep you sane ... they just lower the bar on what is considered sanity

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

In answer to wimp's rather rude question - Rare Steak, strong Larger and red wine and fast cars....

[fsn]

Anyway to answer Techno's question ...

Techno: I'm assuming we're talking Archaemenid. I'm also assuming we're talking Marathon to Platea.

In that case, what you do have to get right is the khaphut. It is quite distinctive. Some manufacturers get it a bit wrong and it looks a bit more pheenish-y - the Magister Miletum offering is a definite proto-pheenish.*

You can see the khaput quite clearly on the figure on the right. Being a big nebby, his is likely to have been brightly coloured and possibly jewel studded, but you get the idea? You will also notice why stirrups weren't necessary, as the rider just ran along with the horse.


Certainly a portion of Iranian horse would have a dunpher instead of a khaput, specially those from the mountains when the khaput is a bit impractical.

Here the dunpher isn't particularly well drawn, but you can compare with the khaput above to get the difference.


This may be a dunpher, or possibly an "Orchid"*** khaput. In 10mm it probably won't make a lot of difference, and you'd only really know from a left hand view.

If you're after Iranian horse, please make sure they are armed with bows, javelins and, please, please, please can we have a karkdit? I have a great picture that I'll scan and send to you ... they're the Semi-Cataphract  Utilising Babylonian Armour.****   


I trust this helps, Techno.



*Hawkins**says that Alexander the Great introduced the pheenish, but from where? It's not remotely Macedonian, and he was in Persia before India. I think it more likely that the pheenish was beginning to gain popularity in the Persian Empire before Alexander got there, possibly due to larger Anatolian horses being imported, and Alexander copied it, as he copied so much.
** See "Armies of the Persian Empire", Arms & Armour, 1998. pgs 48-50.
*** See Farris & Khan, "A Discussion of the Orchid Khaputs in the 5th Century BCE", Oxford University Press, 2012
**** If you do make a SCUBA figure, please make sure the horse has the correct snorkel       

[Orcs]

I can see from FSN's post that I was right. Iranian cavalry ride horses with an assortment of sharp pointy things

[FierceKitty]

That rock carving, however, is very Sassanid, and thus half a millennium later than the Achaemenid era. Of course, if you're the kind of gamer who'd use Henry V's archers for the Falklands campaign, this isn't an issue.

[Kiwidave]

That had me confused till I had a better look at the pictures 

And me - I was thinking ' There were Kiwis in the Union Army? Cool"

[fsn]

That rock carving, however, is very Sassanid, and thus half a millennium later than the Achaemenid era. Of course, if you're the kind of gamer who'd use Henry V's archers for the Falklands campaign, this isn't an issue.

Is it? Gosh. It's almost as if I just googled Archaemeniad Cavalry and randomly picked an image or three.

Do you find you uncalled for pedantry a big encumberance in social circumstances?   

[Techno]

Thanks for those pics, Nobby.....But I think I'm OK with the ref piccies I've got.

It was just the size of a 'bit of kit' that I've got to give one of the cavalry...and Will's answered that.

Cheers - Phil

[FierceKitty]

Is it? Gosh. It's almost as if I just googled Archaemeniad Cavalry and randomly picked an image or three.

Do you find you uncalled for pedantry a big encumberance in social circumstances?   

Google accepts your spelling of Achaemenid? Well, strike me pink.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Hello pink

[fsn]

Thanks for those pics, Nobby.....But I think I'm OK with the ref piccies I've got.

It was just the size of a 'bit of kit' that I've got to give one of the cavalry...and Will's answered that.

Cheers - Phil

Somebody tell him.   

[Techno]

Tell me what ? 

Cheers - Puzzled of Wales.

[Techno]

OK...

Thank you, you OIK !!

Cheers - Phil

[fsn]

 

Worth it to get an "Oik". 

[Techno]

Oik !

There...You can have two !

Cheers - Phil