What would you get Matt Ward for Christmas?

[Techno]

You couldn't take him anywhere, could you !!
Cheers - Phil.

[i_am_win]

That's what my wife says too!! 

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

How about a pounds worth of 2p coins.
50 one inch round bases for a quid, try getting 50 slotted bases for that!

[Vulpine]

Ok I_am_win cock flavoured soup is on the list!

Lemmey, £1 worth of 2p's, lol common, you can't slot a model into a 2p! Credit were due, games workshop are really good at putting a slot we're its needed!

[sebigboss79]

how about getting him a new job? Playing against (or with) the crap he has done at GW..... or make him PAY for the models he uses...

Cannot imagine anything worse than letting someone do THAT while two gentlemen do REAL wargames on the table next to him...

[Sandinista]

How about a beer for helping to introduce people to the hobby?

[Dim_Reapa]

I was going to get him a Monkey At A Typewriter, so he could do his job for him, and do much better, but I think I'd give him the gift I would actually give him if I met him. So put me down for...

A BOOT TO THE HEAD (From Dim_Reapa)

I've even left him one in my will...

[Techno]

How about a beer for helping to introduce people to the hobby?

For all the 'angst' this Matt chap appears to be generating, Sandanista has got a very good point chaps !
True ??
Cheers - Phil 

[petercooman]

Only if you spike the beer and drop him off in Syria afterwards....

[i_am_win]

I personally have nothing against they guy, since I no longer play 40K, nor buy any GW stuff directly.(just stuff off ebay/others)
For me, it's just the Mob mentality, since the GW of today stinks, he seems to be the one to blame (Well, current scapegoat anyway) so that'll do for me!! 

Seriously though, maybe it is right about him bringing new un's into the hobby, not that I'd buy him a drink (remember, I already bought him a hamper that had "prick" cola in it)
I actually think that GW might have a genuine system that creates serious wargamers by the eventual realisation that all they are interested in is cold hard cash, rather than passion for the hobby as a whole. These disillusioned GWites then develop an anti-GW sentiment and develop a taste for real own to earth wargaming and grow more as a person with a better gaming world view (rather than a blinkered "there's only GW and no one else" version of events)

So for that fact alone, they should be applauded.....

[Techno]

Nail on the head I-A-W.
Cheers - Phil.

[petercooman]

Well honestly i have nothing against gw games, i have played them since '97.

But i think that's just the problem, i know what it used to cost me, and i see what it costs now. That makes the price increases more notable to me than to someone new in the game.

I understand that life is getting more epensive, and that the price can't stay the same, so that's not the biggest issue for me. The problem is that the price goes up, and the quality goes down. Now you can say whatever you want, it's the truth.

I still have the army books i bought back in '97, and they are still pretty much intact. I have books from gw i bought A year or two ago, that fell apart after a month of use.

I also have lots and lots of their metal LOTR minis,  wich are fine, but the last thing i bought were 8 uruk hai crossbows in finecast. They were warped, full of bubbles, missing entire pieces and even contained other coloured pieces. (wich i guess are he result of a bad mixing of the resin compounds)

Now in both cases i contacted customer service at gw and in both cases i got a new item from them. Now this is all fine and dandy, where it not that the replacement book lost aa page on the first time i opened it, and the replacement finecast urks where just as bad as my first batch...

I guess i'll just stick to my epic 40k armies for my gw needs from now on 

[sebigboss79]

I personally have nothing against they guy, since I no longer play 40K, nor buy any GW stuff directly.(just stuff off ebay/others)
For me, it's just the Mob mentality, since the GW of today stinks, he seems to be the one to blame (Well, current scapegoat anyway) so that'll do for me!! 

Seriously though, maybe it is right about him bringing new un's into the hobby, not that I'd buy him a drink (remember, I already bought him a hamper that had "prick" cola in it)
I actually think that GW might have a genuine system that creates serious wargamers by the eventual realisation that all they are interested in is cold hard cash, rather than passion for the hobby as a whole. These disillusioned GWites then develop an anti-GW sentiment and develop a taste for real own to earth wargaming and grow more as a person with a better gaming world view (rather than a blinkered "there's only GW and no one else" version of events)

So for that fact alone, they should be applauded.....

I concur but, the big but, is whether YOU as a gentleman REAL wargamer want those EX-GWplayers gaming within a 500 mile radius around your gaming table much less the same system(s). Like the plague they should stick to their side of the universe and keep their "uninformed ignorance". leaves the fun parts of the hobbies for us...think about it and you will agree.

[Sandinista]

I concur but, the big but, is whether YOU as a gentleman REAL wargamer want those EX-GWplayers gaming within a 500 mile radius around your gaming table much less the same system(s). Like the plague they should stick to their side of the universe and keep their "uninformed ignorance". leaves the fun parts of the hobbies for us...think about it and you will agree.

Wrong on so many levels, buy the guy a beer and play games with the guys. We all started somewhere...

[Techno]

I concur but, the big but, is whether YOU as a gentleman REAL wargamer want those EX-GWplayers gaming within a 500 mile radius around your gaming table much less the same system(s). Like the plague they should stick to their side of the universe and keep their "uninformed ignorance". leaves the fun parts of the hobbies for us...think about it and you will agree.

On one side.....There might well be a proportion of ex GW gamers that you would possibly want to avoid at the table....
On the other; I'd be very surprised if there were NOT a good number of our esteemed forum's members (maybe even the majority ??) who 'cut their teeth' on the 'Evil Empire's' models and rules systems.
After all, there are, to my knowledge, half a dozen or so of us who've admitted to actually working for them in the past.

My guess is that you've been really unlucky sebigboss....and met more than your fair share of those we would all want to avoid.
I tend to agree with Sandanista....We all started somewhere.

Hope this comes across in the spirit it's intended.

Cheers - Phil.