What are you currently reading ?

Started by goat major, 03 November 2012, 06:40:05 PM

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pierre the shy

Looks like it was tried in the beginning of the C19, but was not particularly successful, at least commercally speaking.....

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Techno II

Thanks, chums. :)

A lot of the fictional story, seems to be more than roughly based on historical  'fact'...But the 17thC flintlock, seven shot revolver sounded somewhat 'iffy'...even to me.

Cheers - Phil.  :)


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04 September 2021, 10:24:07 AM #3742 Last Edit: 04 September 2021, 10:28:55 AM by fsn
They even had machine guns.


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Gwydion

First working (?) attempt by (probably) John Dafte - not a name to fill the user with confidence :D- in 1668.

https://collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-1534.html

or a nice video showing a 1680 version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFaIEXsXHAk

So - yes entirely possible but you fire it not me!

Westmarcher

Good find(s), Gwydion (although they look like the same weapon to me). Additionally confirms the plausibility of such a weapon for Phil's book (now all we need is a seven shot version to be discovered - but makes you wonder why the author didn't just go with the six shot version for the book) and the risky nature of firing one of these things as speculated by Ian.   :-bd
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Ithoriel

Perhaps inspired by the Nock seven barrel beloved of Patrick Harper in the Sharpe's novels?

Also, if you feel the need for a multibarrel monstrosity presumably you expect to already be in such mortal danger that the risk may be worth taking?
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Techno II

Hmmm.....not that I have a clue.....But the 'supposed inventor'....in the fictional story was Italian.

Probably made up ?

Cheers - Phil. :)

Ithoriel

Not a multibarrel but a multishot pistol of the right era
 
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/788263

Never come across Michele Lorenzoni before.

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Techno II

Quote from: Ithoriel on 04 September 2021, 02:07:30 PM
Not a multibarrel but a multishot pistol of the right era 
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/788263
Never come across Michele Lorenzoni before.
Just when you think you've seen everything along comes another surprise!

That was the chap, Mike ! (What a clever erm....man. )

Cheers- Phil :)


Gwydion

Well, Lorenzoni's pistol may be the one in your book Phil, but it ain't a revolver, :) or a revolving chamber holding 7  balls and charges - it's a magazine in the handle with enough powder for 7 shots, 7 balls and you hold it muzzle down and work the lever that loads a measure of powder and a ball into the barrel each time.

Video of how it works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_hnC6x036Q

Dafte's gun is a revolver (and he was British!) and made before Lorenzoni's and nearly two centuries before Colt's.

Techno II

Hmmmm....If I can find it.....I'll have to go back and listen to that bit again.

I was fairly certain I heard a 'revolving chamber' mentioned.....But then, I'm not usually listening too carefully.  :-[ ;)
The 'revolving' bit might well have been referring to the lever on the left....that sort of revolves ?

Fascinating 'video'.....Thanks for posting that, G.....Most appreciated. :-bd

Cheers - Phil. :)


kipt

Finished "Renaissance Armies 1480-1650" by George Gush - an oldy but goody.  This was published in 1975 when there was not a lot of information about the armies involved.  The author collected it all and published it in 22 chapters, along with drawings and pictures of the formations, weapons, flags and military dress.

The first four chapters discuss the warfare in the period 1480 - 1650, infantry, cavalry and artillery.  The remaining 18 each discuss a particular force.  Quite a bit of information here.  Not a period I game so don't know how much new information has come forward other than Osprey's most likely.

Ben Waterhouse

Quote from: kipt on 11 September 2021, 02:42:01 PM
Finished "Renaissance Armies 1480-1650" by George Gush - an oldy but goody.  This was published in 1975 when there was not a lot of information about the armies involved.  The author collected it all and published it in 22 chapters, along with drawings and pictures of the formations, weapons, flags and military dress.

The first four chapters discuss the warfare in the period 1480 - 1650, infantry, cavalry and artillery.  The remaining 18 each discuss a particular force.  Quite a bit of information here.  Not a period I game so don't know how much new information has come forward other than Osprey's most likely.

I'm such a geek I have both the Green and the Orange cover editions...

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kipt

Finished "Cavalry Studies from Two Great Wars", part of the International Military series, No. @ and edited by Captain Arthur L. Wagner.  Done ion 1896.

There are three studies in the book:
The French Cavalry In 1870 by LTC Bonie,
The German Cavalry In The Battle of Vionville - Mars-La-Tour, MAJ Kaehler,
The Operations Of The Cavalry In The Gettysburg Campaign, LTC George B. Davis.

All good studies and I have all three in other, separate books.  Did not mind reading them again as I am into both periods very heavily.

Techno II

Finished listening to "Blood Rock" by James Jackson.

Set around the Knights of St John and their defence of Malta against Emperor Suleiman.
I assumed it had some sort 'nod' (or more) to history, but not absolutely sure...Did enjoy it though.

Just finishing of listening to "Circe" by Madeline Miller. Really didn't like it to start with, but got into it about a third of the way through.
Basically about Circe's role in Greek mythology. A good listen !

Cheers - Phil. :)


Heedless Horseman

Re: Early repeating pistols...what absolutely amazing tech for the times! Thanks for posting, gents!
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Techno II

I forgot to mention..... :-[ (Derrr)

That gun appears (and is used) later in the 'Blood's Revolution' story.....The description of its use is exactly 'as per' that 'video'.

Cheers - Phil. :)