Dr. Who

[Leon]

Ultimately i guess Pendraken will know what risks they want to take with this.

Vulpine is sculpting them for his own personal use, so we're just going to mould them up for him to save him having to sculpt hundreds!  That aspect will be dealt with by our contract casting side (separate business), so it won't be anything to do with Pendraken.  Commercially speaking, everything 'Doctor Who' is copyrighted, so it's not something anyone would be advised to get into.

[Luddite]

Vulpine is sculpting them for his own personal use, so we're just going to mould them up for him to save him having to sculpt hundreds!  That aspect will be dealt with by our contract casting side (separate business), so it won't be anything to do with Pendraken.  Commercially speaking, everything 'Doctor Who' is copyrighted, so it's not something anyone would be advised to get into.

[Vulpine]

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Ok, I've done some more, including the Cyber Controler. The pics don't do them justice (I'm going to say that!) but I'm seeing Ludite this sat (belive it or not Ludite, that ain't his real name!) ill show him, he doesn't beat around the bush (so his wife says) he will clarifie my skill

[Techno]

Like to see some 'cleaner' piccies 'V'....
But from what I can see, you're doing a grand job !
Cheers - Phil.

[Vulpine]

Ill see what I can do... I only have my Iphone

Here is a question for Leon (I would ask via email, but I thought others might be interested), if I want a mould (that holds 30x10mm models) to have, say 5 identical darleks, do I need to make 5 or can you press the same model in the mould multiple times?

Thanks

[Techno]

If you're seeing that nice Mr Luddite on Saturday, perhaps he could take some piccies ??....Maybe ??
Cheers - Phil.

[Leon]

Here is a question for Leon (I would ask via email, but I thought others might be interested), if I want a mould (that holds 30x10mm models) to have, say 5 identical darleks, do I need to make 5 or can you press the same model in the mould multiple times?

You'd need to make 5 of them as the mould can only be pressed once.  It depends though on how many you need for your games?  If you need 30 total, then you could sculpt 3 and we'd have to spin the mould 10 times, etc.  The more you need total, the more sculpts it's better to have, to save on casting time.

[Vulpine]

Right, so you can't put one master model into one mould 5 times? One model per mould?

For exsample, say you have Fantesy orcs with cross bow and one mould has 10 of them in that mould, you had 10 master models presse into the mould at the same time. You couldn't press the same model in the one mould multiple times? If that make sense?

Oh, another pic;
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[Vulpine]

.... To be more simple. If we have a mould with 10 Daleks, so evry time I ask you to make me a unit of ten, it would be better for you if that one mould had 10 darleks in it. Does that mean I have to make by hand 10 separate Daleks for you to make that mould up.

[barbarian]

Or: You find someone to cast in resin. But I don't know if someone could do it in 10mm.

[Vulpine]

   What about our leader (Leon) I would rather die than turn my back on him!!! Hang your head in shame Barbarian  


Other pic : http://img15.imageshack.us/i/imagepcja.jpg

[barbarian]

...I meant : Then you send these casts to Leon to make a mould...

[Leon]

Normally, we take a load of individual sculpts, and put them into a master mould.  So each master mould will contain 30+ different figures.  We then spin this mould repeatedly to create master castings.  Once we have enough of these, we use them to make a production mould.

We could do this for you, but it means you'd be paying out for several moulds?

[Vulpine]

With ya... Or I just say "Leon 12 Daleks" and you has to make it 12 times   (I did this once with some winged monsters, Leon wasn't happy)

The darleks are the only one, so I think we will just make a few of them for the mould.

It's just that we only have 30ish models per mould.

The rest, as its going to be a skirmish game (all on individual small round bases) I didn't want a load of repeat models.

For example, the Cyberman are probely going to be in units of 7. As I have a leader model and four others  it means that you ain't going to have a load of obvious duplicates.

The Vogons are going to have two different squads, units of 10 with three different models each (so you end up with 2x3 and 1x4)

I'm also doing Ogrons, these are just an Mercenary unit so two will do.

Lucky for us U.N.I.T (Falkland British) and Humans (Sci Fi) are sorted already by Pendraken
Future human pic: http://stagevu.com/img/thumbnail/ltzsojbkphcdbig.jpg



So Dim Reaper has to do (I'm guessing at the Variants)
Dalek x3
Special Wep Dalek x1
Dalek troops x0 (will also use pendraken sci fi humans)
Sontarens x3
Sontaren Genral x1
Gallifrey High Councillor x1
Gallifrey guard x3
Time lord warrior x3

Once we have the above made we will then do a Charictor mould,
All 8 classic Doctors
The master
Davros
A TARDIS  (perfect objective marker)
Raston warrior robot
And possibly a few more races (Autons, Draconions, Zygons, Ice warriors, Silurians etc)

[Vulpine]

Well Lud ..?

Luddite had a look at one of my cybermen in the flesh. So what did you think? You know I think it's amazing. However with that attitude ill neaver inprove so, what did you reckon? Put it this way, if thos models were on the Pendraken shelves, would you use thos models yourself?

[Luddite]

I've got to say they're lovely little sculpts old chap.

The cybermen are somewhat iconic to say the least (well the classic series ones are) and you've captured that iconography pretty damned well.

I know they're not finished yet so the only comment I'd make is that the 'metal' parts (helm, and beastplate-pauldron arrangement) needs to be a bit 'crisper' with sharper edges.  I know the source material has these area rounded off, but as a modelling conceit i think they'd look better being a bit sharper.  But other than that, very good sir. 

'I'd buy that for a dollar'...   ...and i'm certainly looking forwards to seeing them painted up.  Silver with a black ink wash should do it!


On a side note; it's enough to inspire a chap to have a go himself...

[Vulpine]

Thanks man!

I could try cornering them a tad (not 90• but possibly 45 and a 45 hexagonal top) see what it looks like.

I've done some Vogans also, there looking good also, I'll post some of them later.

Painting wise, yeah, spray black, heavy drybrush metal, ink, chill


I really want to paint them... But if I do I don't think Leon can mould them up.

[i_am_win]

Vulpine is sculpting them for his own personal use, so we're just going to mould them up for him to save him having to sculpt hundreds!  That aspect will be dealt with by our contract casting side (separate business), so it won't be anything to do with Pendraken.  Commercially speaking, everything 'Doctor Who' is copyrighted, so it's not something anyone would be advised to get into.

Yeah, things are fine as long as it's for personal use, it's just when your selling it and/or trying to pass it off as the real thing where the problems start. However, if you gave them "not" names such as "exterminatorcons" for daleks or "Deletabots" for cybermen, you could sell them as "Not" versions.
I come across this a lot with my art commissions, people tend to want me to do them a painting or item that is star wars or another tie-in. I'm Ok to do the job for them as long as its not for commercial use, just private.

Loving your progress so far, Can't wait for your "Exterminatorcons" though! It's a shame your not doing them in 15mm, I do really want some of them in 15mm......!!

[Paint it Pink]

For Xmas I would like some 10mm not-Daleks and not-Cybermen please. I've been a good girl all year and Santa would get milk and cookies, or equivalent in exchange. 

[Vulpine]

It's Leon who decides on 10mm Robotmen and Peperpot robots, giving Leon the milk and cookies might be a better plan (although the evidence of this thread would need removing).