ECW needs a bit of an update

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

That is true....

IanS

[mollinary]

Hertsblue,

We have had this debate on here before. General Monck referred to the practice of cutting them down, and deplored it.  But, that said, they were supposed to be 16-18 feet long, and it takes a lot of cutting to get down to 10-11 feet. A scale 14ft I could just about live with, but look at the engravings of pikeblocks of the period, then look at the current pikes in the range, and tell me they give the same impression.  The beauty of the open hand is it leaves that decision up to the individual customer.  You can have them cut down to toothpicks if that is your preference, and I can keep them at 16ft if that is mine. Everybody wins. And Leon gets to sell extra packs of separate pikes.

Mollinary

[Aart Brouwer]

Athenian sarissai were about 5 meters long, the Macedonian variety even 6 meters. Spanish pikes in the 16th and 17th centuries were 4,5 meters long, they were issued by the furriel (quartermaster) on behalf (and at the expense) of the captain of the tercio and anyone insolent enough to saw off a yard or two would have been flogged.

Anyhoo - the original poster rightfully asked to address the obvious flaws in the lobstermen and generals' figures, in other words two essential figures in the ECW range. Personally I couldn't care less whether the pikemen carry their weapons open handed, close handed or up their *****s.

Alright, I do care.. 

But let's do first things first, please.

Cheers,
Aar

[FierceKitty]

. Personally I couldn't care less whether the pikemen carry their weapons open handed, close handed or up their *****s.

Alright, I do care.. 

But let's do first things first, please. Especially Aztecs.

Cheers,
Aar

Are you confused by the words phalanx and phallus?

[Aart Brouwer]

Are you confused by the words phalanx and phallus?

Phooy, you philippically phallic Philistine ! 

Cheers,
Aart

[FierceKitty]

Phooy, you philippically phallic Philistine ! 

Cheers,
Aart

You didn't work feline in there.

[Techno]

Where did the "especially Aztecs" quote come from in one of  Aart's recent posts ?
Can't see that in the original !

[Aart Brouwer]

Where did the "especially Aztecs" quote come from in one of  Aart's recent posts ?
Can't see that in the original !

Hmm, a case of pheline inphiltration..? 

Cheers,
Aart

[Techno]

Think you might be right Aart !
Cheers - Ffil.

[nikharwood]

Cheers,
Aar

And he's turned into a 

[Rothgar68]

I'd like to see a few marching shot with musket shouldered poses.

Thanks!

[Sigur]

I may be a bit late to jump on the band wagon but I agree that the ECQ could do with a bit of an addition. Pikemen with empty hands would be something I'd greatly welcome. Cavalry models look fine to me but I wouldn't mind seeing more of them of course, especially lighter cavalry and maybe some commander models. I know that these are less cost effective to make and sell so not too much urgency on that. Musketeers are fine as well, just some more hats would be great in the way that the reloading musketeers almost always wear those knit woolen hats which doesn't look so great in TYW Imperial Catholic ranks. Speaking of which, some musketeers holding the muskets across their chests would be great for the ranks behind the first,

[Leon]

We're having a bit of a think on some of these points, but we won't have the time available to do all of them.  I'll see what we can get done.

[FierceKitty]

ECQ? English Civil Quarrel, I suppose?

[nikharwood]

ECQ? English Civil Quarrel, I suppose?

[piccolomini]

Would definitely like to see cavalry remodelled as horses are too small on most, especially the Cuirassier and Cavalryman with hat. Maybe even a Cuirassier in the Thirty Years war range sporting a Zischagge helmet. Open-handed pikeman also a good idea as currently more spear than pike-like.

[Sandinista]

I really like the current range, look great painted and based. I will post some piccies shortly of my now finished armies, not back in work until wednesday so should have time...

[Hertsblue]

ECQ? English Civil Quarrel, I suppose?

Well, the king was only there to lend tone to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl. 

[Techno]

ECQ? English Civil Quarrel, I suppose?

Elizabeth....Current Queen ?

[mollinary]

England - Cromwell's Quarry?