Gelatinous Cube

Started by Germy, 17 October 2011, 07:40:05 PM

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sixsideddice

... would help if I could actually spell it


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Squirrel

Quote from: sixsideddice on 17 February 2012, 12:50:45 PM
... would help if I could actually spell it


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=O =O

Good idea actually :-bd

Cheers,

Kev

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21 August 2012, 08:47:10 PM #22 Last Edit: 21 August 2012, 08:54:04 PM by O Dinas Powys
Ok, time to resurrect this ancient beast!

I was in Hobbycraft the other day and spotted this stuff:



Looks like it might be just the ticket, from the Woodland Scenics website http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/Item/C1206/page/1:
QuoteEasy to use. Good for deep, single pours. No measuring or mixing. Just heat and pour E-Z Water according to package directions, to form ponds, streams, rivers and harbors. Non-toxic, low-odor product that hardens in minutes.

If I ever have the need for a swarm of cubes I shall let you know the results! ;)
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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Nice resurrection, as the assassin said to the cleric!

They also sell it in the Model Zone shops, I noticed it the other day and did wonder if it was any good...
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Quote from: mad lemmey on 21 August 2012, 08:52:29 PM
Nice resurrection, as the assassin said to the cleric!
Thank you!  :-bd

Quote from: mad lemmey on 21 August 2012, 08:52:29 PM
They also sell it in the Model Zone shops, I noticed it the other day and did wonder if it was any good...
I suppose when it comes in roughly pint bags, you could treat them as disposable if they are too fragile or clagg up horribly with dust!   ;)
(I know, even though it's fantasy  :o  ;)  )

far4ngn

I lost loads of good adventurers to those damn things!

Poggle

I didn't find EZ Water that easy, to be honest. It needs heating up to melt the nodules. It isn't a whole lot of fun on a bun to handle scalding hot material quickly enough to be effective before it solidifies. Great care is needed.

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Quote from: Poggle on 24 August 2012, 01:16:59 AM
I didn't find EZ Water that easy, to be honest. It needs heating up to melt the nodules. It isn't a whole lot of fun on a bun to handle scalding hot material quickly enough to be effective before it solidifies. Great care is needed.

Worth knowing, thanks  :)

If anyone were mad enough to try, how do you think it would work?  On a quick websearch I found a tutorial on making dolls house water features.  There were pictures of cast E-Z water free-standing, but it said it was quite brittle.  Do you think it would survive table-top use?

Cheers,

Meirion
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Poggle

Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 24 August 2012, 08:24:42 PM
Worth knowing, thanks  :)

If anyone were mad enough to try, how do you think it would work?  On a quick websearch I found a tutorial on making dolls house water features.  There were pictures of cast E-Z water free-standing, but it said it was quite brittle.  Do you think it would survive table-top use?

Cheers,

Meirion

EZ Water is brittle. For tabletop use I'll say a provisional 'yes,' but I'd go with depth and compactness - no thin or shallow streams or river sections, or marshy patches; they simply wouldn't survive much handling. As mentioned it is a bugger to work with, due to the need to heat it, and you have to work fast for it to be any use as it solidifies very quickly. Personally I'd go with Envirotex Lite, or, failing that, several coats of varnish.

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Quote from: Poggle on 24 August 2012, 09:04:02 PM
EZ Water is brittle. For tabletop use I'll say a provisional 'yes,' but I'd go with depth and compactness - no thin or shallow streams or river sections, or marshy patches; they simply wouldn't survive much handling. As mentioned it is a bugger to work with, due to the need to heat it, and you have to work fast for it to be any use as it solidifies very quickly. Personally I'd go with Envirotex Lite, or, failing that, several coats of varnish.

Ok, cheers.  However, talking specifically about a Gelatinous Cube(which would be about 30mm an edge to fit in with the resin dungeon pieces), how do you think it would fare then?

Since you mention it, how would Envirotex Lite fare?

The chief selling feature of the E-Z water was that I'd seen it in Hobbycraft, its purported easy of use and relative cheapness.  Envirotex Lite seems readily available on-line.  How easy is it to use?

Cheers,

Meirion
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Luddite

24 August 2012, 10:32:35 PM #30 Last Edit: 24 August 2012, 10:37:09 PM by Leon
Wouldn't it be easier to simply use real gelatinous cubes?





With a bit of trimming you could make them look ok, and it'd be easy to push a skeleton figure or other detritus into it.

And afterwards, assuming it doesn't melt, it'll make a nice dessert.

:)

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Quote from: Luddite on 24 August 2012, 10:32:35 PM
Wouldn't it be easier to simply use real gelatinous cubes?





Obviously, but where's the fun in that?  ;)

...and it makes your dungeon non-vegetarian over prolonged use!  :D
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Poggle

Envirotex Lite is very easy to use. It's an epoxy varnish, meant to give the same coverage effect as fifty coats of regular varnish, but it works fine for water effects too. You mix equal parts of A and B and pour or brush it onto the surface. Use a cheap brush, because you'll have to throw it away afterwards. It dries in about 24 hours. It is a bit expensive, but you don't need a lot to get a good result.

I haven't used it for gelatinous cubes, but it's perfectly possible. Rather than go into a lot of detail here, I'll provide this link to this chap...

http://www.hirstarts.com/tips19/tips19.html#tube

Go a quarter way down the page. He shows how to use Envirotex to make a SF stasis tube. Same principle could be used for a gelatinous cube.  ;)

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Quote from: Poggle on 24 August 2012, 10:54:35 PM
Envirotex Lite is very easy to use. It's an epoxy varnish, meant to give the same coverage effect as fifty coats of regular varnish, but it works fine for water effects too. You mix equal parts of A and B and pour or brush it onto the surface. Use a cheap brush, because you'll have to throw it away afterwards. It dries in about 24 hours. It is a bit expensive, but you don't need a lot to get a good result.

I haven't used it for gelatinous cubes, but it's perfectly possible. Rather than go into a lot of detail here, I'll provide this link to this chap...

http://www.hirstarts.com/tips19/tips19.html#tube

Go a quarter way down the page. He shows how to use Envirotex to make a SF stasis tube. Same principle could be used for a gelatinous cube.  ;)


Thanks for the info.  :-bd
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arabianknight

Here's a tutorial link for you to try: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kylemay/2045290249/

I had intended to give it a bash myself before posting up here, but never got round to it. Thought I'd best get it posted up during the threads second incarnation  ;)

I'd thought that maybe you could build it up in stages if you needed to put skeletons in the middle.

sixsideddice

Love this thread... full of great ideas. I`m still trying to come up with the ideal Cube, have made a few of my own, but they`re just not right somehow.

.... now the jelly idea sounds yummy. Quite delicious infact.

O Dinas Powys

Quote from: arabianknight on 24 September 2012, 01:01:14 PM
Here's a tutorial link for you to try: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kylemay/2045290249/

I had intended to give it a bash myself before posting up here, but never got round to it. Thought I'd best get it posted up during the threads second incarnation  ;)

I'd thought that maybe you could build it up in stages if you needed to put skeletons in the middle.

Another great suggestion, cheers!  :-bd
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