Austrian infantry 1866

Started by Martyn, 28 June 2011, 07:24:32 PM

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Martyn

Why was this historically accurate "attack pose" deleted? Seems very odd.

Leman

It has to be admitted that the new figures are a better sculpt, but you still have a good point there Martyn.
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Leon

It was due to new dollies having been designed, and that pose wasn't among them.
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Martyn

Surely historical research should be the backbone to any figure range rather than letting the figure designer dictate what is to be produced? Obviously there are situations when generic poses such as for ancients  as spear or javelin men etc, design freedom might be acceptable but in this case it just shows a lack of attention to detail.
Sorry to be so critical but if Pendraken is only going to produce one pose of Austrian infantry figure for 1866 which is in an incorrect pose when there was one in the original range then why should I bother to purchase. Sadly a lost sale.

Leon

Quote from: Martyn on 11 July 2011, 07:13:54 PM
Surely historical research should be the backbone to any figure range rather than letting the figure designer dictate what is to be produced? Obviously there are situations when generic poses such as for ancients  as spear or javelin men etc, design freedom might be acceptable but in this case it just shows a lack of attention to detail.

It's not really a lack of attention to detail, our designer spends a huge amount of time researching every figure he does.  If I recall correctly, at the time people wanted increasingly dynamic poses, so advancing with the rifle at 45 degrees happened to be the one done.

Quote from: Martyn on 11 July 2011, 07:13:54 PM
Sorry to be so critical but if Pendraken is only going to produce one pose of Austrian infantry figure for 1866 which is in an incorrect pose when there was one in the original range then why should I bother to purchase. Sadly a lost sale.

You've got two poses in the kittel troops, one in the greatcoat, plus you could use some of the new skirmishers to add more variety.  



We obviously don't want to lose a sale, but at the moment, there are very few votes for more greatcoat poses, so it doesn't look to be much of a priority for other folks.
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cameronian

Lighten up Martyn, its a minority period and PenD have been mighty supportive of it.
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Martyn

Sorry. Don't mean to be a bore!
Leon would it be possible just to up grade the old figure rather than go to the time and expense of something new?

maciek

Quote from: Martyn on 11 July 2011, 07:13:54 PM
Sorry to be so critical but if Pendraken is only going to produce one pose of Austrian infantry figure for 1866 which is in an incorrect pose when there was one in the original range then why should I bother to purchase. Sadly a lost sale.
This is why I suspended my plans for this period for a while. I will wait till more poses appear.
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owaincaesarius

Advancing at 45 degrees will do for me when/if I reinforce my Kaiserliks. Would rather like to see a few wearing the fore-and-aft forage cap as well though. Maybe one of the new skirmishers could be given it?

Leman

Hi everyone,
I seem to remember this old chestnut with the ACW in 15mm. Eventually Old Glory produced a right shoulder shift pack - then what happened - people wanted to produce charges, firing lines, marching columns etc. I actually like the new poses in the Austrian Greatcoat and remember back in the 60s when the only way to game this period was to endlessly convert Airfix figures. The fact that there is now a very large range of period specific mid-C19th figures is a boon and it does seem a little churlish  to be grumbling about this pose or that. I have found that with the best will in the world, when you want to put together a totally historical army, when it comes to the actual game sacrifices have to be made (not enough figures of a particular type, opponent's army not entirely accurate etc.). Perhaps nowadays we are spoilt too much with what is available and need to get some perspective on things. Remember how much companies like Pendraken and Freikorps have advanced the cause of C19th wargaming.
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Shedman

Quote from: Dour Puritan on 13 July 2011, 05:33:28 PM
Remember how much companies like Pendraken and Freikorps have advanced the cause of C19th wargaming.

Absolutely - without Pendraken I'd have no 1859 or 1870 armies and without Freikorps no Maximilian Adventure

Mulciber

It would be lovely to see skirmish line jaegers.