Viet Nam Crossfire

[jchaos79]

Just thinking in gaming Viet NAM in 10mm and we choose Crossfire as ruleset.

Any advices about Cross Fire?

Any suggestion about rules to simulate NAM period?

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Odd set of rules - the terrain may be too cluttered for them to work. Cold War Commander seems to work well for the period.

If you are going with Crossfire then use as written, although you would need to add the AFV's, and probably re-write the AFV rules as well. There is a Yahoo group, but avoid the Modern-Crossfire group, very strange people.

Also root around on "freewargamesrules.co.uk", there is a lot of stuff on there.

IanS

[zaapark]

Incoming is a  free supplement for Vietnam Crossfire. 

see link - http://www.eleven-bravo.co.uk/wargaming/crossfire/index.php

[jchaos79]

Thanks, I made a playtest and I enjoy it. The sense of no using floxemeter to mesaure the distances is quite pleasent. Very easy, very fast, no complications for modern times 

I did not read cold war commander. Ver people recommend it, and it seems is very close to warmaster (my favourite set of rules). So maybe I could make a try.

Thanks zaapark for the link, (I knew about it), but anyway I appreciate that. Is a very useful link

[Paint it Pink]

My recommendation for Vietnam would be Charlie Don't Surf from TooFat Lardies games. It models the asymmetrical aspect of the war really well, and is ideal for 6mm and 10mm games.

[FierceKitty]

Any good ancients rules. You'll just have to decide whether to trust the Chinese chronicles and their story about how a critical regiment of Viet woman warriors fled to preserve their modesty when charged by a regiment of naked Han men. And converting the Trung sisters as your generals may be a bit of a modelling challenge.

[OldenBUA]

a critical regiment of Viet woman warriors fled to preserve their modesty when charged by a regiment of naked Han men

Why is it always this way around. Why do regiments of naked woman warriors never charge some hapless unit of men.

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Any good ancients rules. You'll just have to decide whether to trust the Chinese chronicles and their story about how a critical regiment of Viet woman warriors fled to preserve their modesty when charged by a regiment of naked Han men. And converting the Trung sisters as your generals may be a bit of a modelling challenge.

And the relavance of this comment is ? 

More modern stuff - NOW NOW NOW. AND NO SILLY HATS

[FierceKitty]

Why is it always this way around. Why do regiments of naked woman warriors never charge some hapless unit of men.

Well, Indian, Khmer, and Siamese armies often involve topless women. But I think the reasons are closer to what the feminists complain about than to intimidation. I've seen a lot of women in my long decades as a nudist, and fear is seldom a major reaction.

[jchaos79]

So I guess the amazon range will fit your idea of a good Siamese army (I guess your siamese word is  in the meaning of coming by identical pairs (·) (·)   ).

Anyway, did you see Atragon (the film)?, this could be a good point to make a convergence battle between a modern army (united nations and modern japanese in the 60's army) and chinese/aztec/japanese ancient army (legendary inhabitants from Mu Continent)

what set of rules will you use for this battle   ??

and what pendraken reference do you use to reprsent both armies?

[OldenBUA]

united nations and modern japanese in the 60's army and chinese/aztec/japanese ancient army

Moderns, Chinese and Aztecs, wow. If Pendraken would do all those armies it would please a lot of people (except the silly hat brigade, ofcourse).

[jchaos79]

lets see... start thinking about this riddle

http://www.google.es/imgres?q=atragon&um=1&hl=es&sa=N&biw=1024&bih=571&tbm=isch&tbnid=WLHu7ZTGi9moQM:&imgrefurl=http://descargacineclasico.blogspot.com/2011/04/atragon.html&docid=D_JcDHz2OyEVKM&w=702&h=476&ei=2UQrTt2RAcjSsgamvdznCw&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=140&page=4&tbnh=128&tbnw=182&start=45&ndsp=12&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:45&tx=-33&ty=102

I would use for Mu inhabitantes:

AI11 forest tribesman - indian army
AI8 general and entourage - indian army
SAM12  peasent arquebusier - Samurai (with a bit of paint conversion)


For japansese....
maybe WWII figures, maybe 1905 russo japnaese war (I do not know how these figures look like)
Viet NAM range for united nations ... the chopper, jeeps, and gunboats
Sci fi colonist and civilian crew
BR154 britishciviilan shotgun + coat +cap

what are your suggestions?