WW2 British Heavy Tank

[TheOlivant]

What about an A34 Comet, A13 Covenator or even (breaking into the realms of fantasy now) an A39 Tortoise ?

Im in 'need' of some real British heavy fire power for WW2.

I have seen some A39's on ebay but they are asking just shy of £20 a piece (inc p&p) and im not a rich man (

Anyway, just a thought...I can manage with Crocs, Grants and Sherms, but who wants to just manage )

Wayne

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

The Covenantor is roughly same as a Crusader I, so not there. Comet is excellent, and so is a Churchill 7/8, which is rare but almost proof of German guns. If you want to be silly look up the "TOG", oe the Australian Sentinal, with 2 25pdr.

In real life the Sherman an Cromwell are as good as a Pnz IV, and can outmanouver the dreaded Tigers, so only Panthers should cause you problems.

IanS

[Martyn]

In fact the Covenanter never saw action only used in the UK as a training tank as it was so bad.
The Tortoise did not appear until 1947 and then only three prototypes produced.
Don't tell me FOW are producing the Tortoise as a company pack of 5!!!

[Leon]

...FOW are producing the Tortoise as a company pack of 5!!!

At the bargain price of £40 plus shipping? 

[NTM]

In fact the Covenanter never saw action only used in the UK as a training tank as it was so bad.

A few bridgelayer versions made it into action (Italy IIRC).

[Hurrah]

If you want to be silly look up the "TOG", oe the Australian Sentinal, with 2 25pdr.

Yes, TOG is silly.

That Sentential was only a test bed to see of the turret and hull could handle the firing stresses of a 17pdr, 25 pdrs were all that they had available to test with so they whacked 2 of them in and fired them simultaneously with an electric trigger (their combined stress exceeded that of a single 17pdr). It is curious that the Sentential design (a rush job taking into account an inexperienced and tiny manufacturing base) seems on paper at least to have overcome almost all of the flaws in British cruiser designs with all their technical excellence know how and manufacturing ability on hand.

[TheOlivant]

There does seem to be a lot of interest generally on the internet amoungst the 'geek' sects (I include myself in a few of those) about 'What if' timelines. You only have to look at youtube and you find Ironskies amoungst others.

Ok, heres a pondering question:

Would there be enough interest in 'What If' tanks. You only have to look at games such as World of Tank (which is awesome btw and free) to see there is alot of interest in the genre. But ! would the wargames community welcome it (or more imortantly spend cash on it enough to make it worth while) ?

There are a number of manufacturers already do various bits and pieces in 1:144 (Dragon, rijklau on ebay), charge extortionate prices and still make a good turnover.

What do you think ? wouldnt it be nice to have a few E-100, Tortoise, Lowe Variants, Panther developments, Maus's, T29/T95 SHT, etc, etc....

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

See the Weird WWII thread. Converted a 1/72nd scale T-34 into a 6mm tank from the proposed German stuff. Most of the tested kit isone in 6mm.

IanS

[Leon]

I'd quite like both the Maus and Ratte, but for models of that size, it's hard to justify the design costs.  If there were a definite group of people doing a certain 'What If?' then we'd look at it, but it would need to have some momentum behind it, like the VBCW has done.

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Do the real ones first - PARTICULARLY CENTURIONS.

ianS

[DanJ]

Do the real ones first - PARTICULARLY CENTURIONS.

Comets before centurions, comets fought in Germany equipping 11th AD (I think) but the centurions didn't make it in time.

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Rather suspcet over a 50 year career the Cernt fought rather more often than the Comet !

Leon two to do which are quick and useful -

M10 wth 3", cant see it, just the Achillies and M36, easy, barrel swap on the Achilles master

M1 57mm AT gun, you do this but dont sell it, British 6pdr(not airbourne) with US crew.

IanS

[NTM]

M10 wth 3", cant see it, just the Achillies and M36, easy, barrel swap on the Achilles master

US list A7, missed it myself first time of looking

http://www.pendraken.co.uk/A7-p4618/

If it wasn't snipping off or filing down of the muzzle brake on the Achilles would do the trick.

[OldenBUA]

M1 57mm AT gun, you do this but dont sell it, British 6pdr(not airbourne) with US crew.

IanS

Can be found here, I would think?

57mm AT gun with crew (2)

http://www.pendraken.co.uk/A37-p4648/

[DanJ]

Rather suspcet over a 50 year career the Cernt fought rather more often than the Comet !

True, but this is the WW2 requests thread and the Centurion didn't fight in WW2.  Also the tank changed quite a lot over the 50 years it was in service arround the world, not lleast the up gunning from the original 17ld to 105mm.

What about the Conqueror British tank which was designed as heavy backup to the Centurion?