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Started by jchaos79, 27 March 2010, 01:28:50 AM

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First glance was really interesting. Then I started a deeper reading and get a little bit confuse, but I a had to say that I am not a grognard in Napoleonic warfare. I give the book to my brother who is making a 2mm Nap army and he had read other napoleonic rules. He likes Shako, so I am waiting for his impression about guns n colours, and he decide if we go for Shako way or Guns n colors way.

In my opinion it is a ruleset that I could love, but need to be read and studied and tested.


jchaos79

Talking again about Anti-Elephant Roman weapon for Ausculum,

I thouh a unit like this:



not sure about it? any comment, good or bad?

fred.

It looks good.

But I have to admit I have no idea what its supposed to represent to know if it matches what ever historical description exists.
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01 August 2016, 06:58:38 PM #468 Last Edit: 01 August 2016, 07:04:19 PM by Ithoriel
Dionysius of Halicarnassus describes the carts thus:

"Outside the line they stationed the light-armed troops and the waggons, three hundred in number, which they had got ready for the battle against the elephants. These waggons had upright beams on which were mounted movable traverse poles that could be swung round as quick as thought in any direction one might wish, and on the ends of the poles there were either tridents or swordlike spikes or scythes all of iron; or again they had cranes that hurled down heavy grappling-irons. Many of the poles had attached to them and projecting in front of the waggons fire-bearing grapnels wrapped in tow that had been liberally daubed with pitch, which men standing on the waggons were to set afire as soon as they came near the elephants and then rain blows with them upon the trunks and faces of the beasts. Furthermore, standing on the waggons, which were four-wheeled, were many also of the light-armed troops — bowmen, hurlers of stones and slingers who threw iron caltrops; and on the ground beside the waggons there were still more men."

I like your general idea but would have velites and slingers manning the carts, not legionary types and would use four wheeled carts.

Maybe ARR5 & ARR8 for wagons crews and attendant infantry and ELM17 the Hussite War Wagon without the medieval crew but with added beams and oxen for the carts?



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jchaos79

Thanks Ithoriel, that is really intersting information.

The figures you porpouse and the hussite wagon are defenitively excellent to make the anti elephant weapon.

Unfortunately I do not have all those figures. I would like to include blowing pipes and trumpets to scare the elephants, as I read somwhere Roman use them.

In the war against Hannibal (If I do remember correctly), roman use pigs to scare the elephants and carthaginian start to train their elephant with pigs to get use to them. But this is another unit and I am not going to mix pig with wagons.

Maybe I could hold the idea of anti-elephant unit  I had three 4 wheel carts, and a handfull of velites, that I think is part of the essential of the unit.

Thanks  :)

jchaos79

Quote from: mad lemmey on 01 August 2016, 07:12:23 PM
Flaming pigs?

First time I saw flaming pigs was in Total war series.

I read about pigs, but not about pigs on fire. Anyway, It is very possible that there is a written source talking about flaming pigs. you know as Asterix says: "those romans are crazy"

jchaos79

A character for my Roman Army, Erronious an old hero how is searching for his sons who were kidnapped by the pirates years ago:






Ithoriel

Quote from: jchaos79 on 01 August 2016, 07:19:39 PM
First time I saw flaming pigs was in Total war series.

I read about pigs, but not about pigs on fire. Anyway, It is very possible that there is a written source talking about flaming pigs. you know as Asterix says: "those romans are crazy"

The relevant passages are Polyaenus, "Stratagems" 4.6.3 and Aelian, "On Animals" 16.36. The Megarans broke the siege of their city by coating pigs with flammable materials and driving them towards Antigonas One-Eye's elephants. Faced with a a herd of panicked, squealing, flaming pigs the elephants understandably decided discretion was the better part of valour and legged it. Antigonas' army being left more than a little untidy and reduced in numbers as a result.
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I know they're impressive, but given how much bloody trouble they cause their employers, why were elephant so popular?! Theirnusagebin war in the west just seems to reinforce that the ultimate weapon is a disciplined bloke with a pointy stick and some equally committed mates :D
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Nice work on Errorious, JC. :)

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