'First Look' Republican Roman pics!

[Bertie]

Hello Techno,

Just spent the last 20 mins trying to attach an image no joy. Not the sites fault its me. Anyway if you do a search on google/MSN images there are loads of pictures.

Sorry
Bertie

[Techno]

Hi Bertie.

I believe Leon is going to send me a reference book...(or some pics...)...very soon now....So no worries.
Many thanks for trying anyway ! 

VBWs - Phil

[Bertie]

Hello Techno,

What has Leon given you the go ahead to do?

[Leon]

Hello Techno,

What has Leon given you the go ahead to do?

Nothing yet!  I've been too busy getting the stock done for Salute to get anything sorted.

[Luddite]

The sculpting is excellent but the poseing is off - as stated, they are too static.  I think a simple 'forward lean' into the shield would solve that and make them look a little more dynamic.  I really like the close in shield and the compact use of the galdius, which is as i understand it the current thinking on how these chaps fought (some scholars suggesting that only the gladius blade protruted beyond the tightly held shield).

The Republican Roman army after the Marian reforms adopted the triplex acies 'manipular formation', with the Principes and Hastati behind a shield of skirmishing velites and backed up by the veteran triarii (armed originally in 'Greek fashion' of long spear phalanx, but later increasingly with short spear or even gladius), so i'm not sure which grade of troop you're sculpting here?  Hastati?

The issue of the headdress is also moot.  Again, we don't really know what they wore, but it was likely either tall feathers or a 'horse tail'.  I've alsways felt these 'brushes' look more Greek that Roman.

Here's a good image source (Left = Hastati/Principes; Centre = Triarii; Right = velites).

[Leon]

Thanks for the info Luddite, I might have a wander around Salute for that Osprey.  We've got the Punic Wars one already.

[Techno]

Well, I'll be........
As Leon now knows....That's the particular ref book, I've got already !
Those it is then.....I'll send WIP pictures to Leon as I progress.
Cheers - Phil.
(Hope everyone going to Salute has a really GREAT time !)

[Bertie]

Brilliant just the look I have always considered to be Punic war Romans. One thing though, only a few Velites would have worn the animal headress, those who wanted to stand out on the battlefeild, the rest would have tried to blend into the back ground with a simple helmet. Some good illustrations of Roman cavalry in the book as well

[Leon]

One thing though, only a few Velites would have worn the animal headress, those who wanted to stand out on the battlefeild, the rest would have tried to blend into the back ground with a simple helmet.

Yeah, I don't think we'll be going for the dead cat headwear!

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Yeah, I don't think we'll be going for the dead cat headwear!

Ah - why not....plenty of vounteer mogies around 'ere, or wuz dat foxes....

IanS

[Techno]

Don't talk to me about foxes !
One of the 'wotten wascals' has been having a go at our chickens over the last week !
Anyway...For now...I've just sent that nice Mr Leon some 'dollies' to cast up for me.....and once they're back in my hot little hands, I'll be cracking on with this project....Hopefully in a couple of weeks or so.....Really looking forward to it.

Cheers - Phil.

[Bertie]

Any updates on the figures

[Leon]

We moulded up some of the dollies, a few others needed a bit of quick repair, so we've got to mould those this weekend, and then we'll be sending a load down to Techno.  Then we can get started on this project.   

[Techno]

Huzzah !!
Lots of dollies arrived a couple of days ago...And I've made a start now...I'll send Leon Wip piccies as I go along.
Comments will be welcome & very useful.
I'm fairly certain I know the correct styles/'uniforms' from the ref material I've now got....But if there's anything obvious that's wrong that you can see, let me know....

Cheers - Phil.

[Techno]

See if this works !

I'm really only testing to see if I've done this right !

Hopefully above is a very early wip pic of some of the republican guard...
Feel free to comment evn though it's a very early shot...Like I say above, I'm only really having a 'play'.

Cheers - Phil

[Techno]

Stroll on......It worked !!
Thanks Leon.....Bet I'll have forgotten all that by the time I try and put up the next one !

Cheers again - Phil.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

LOOKING NICE TECHNO! Wow! 

[Techno]

Thanks Lemmy.....

Can't believe I haven't crashed the forum !.....SO much trouble with the 'intraweb' recently, I seem to have used all my time trying to sort out why dozens of emails have been disappearing into the electronic ether for about a month..... Thought it was just me.....But I know differently now....

Cheers - Phil (It'll be nice to get back on with the wee chaps again...after all this 'breaking wind' about.)

[Bertie]

They look fantastic, am I looking forward to putting my present Romans in a dark box, and starting again.

Did Leon give you an idea what he wanted you to do?

Bertie

[nikharwood]

Looking good Phil