'First Look' at the new League of Augsburg range!

Started by clibinarium, 23 March 2011, 01:01:24 AM

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I think the scythes are for battles like the Monmouth rebellion and such like.

I have plenty of uses for them.
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nikharwood

Scythes and other farm implements are de rigeur in Sedgemoor (even now  ;) :D)

goat major

theyre quite common in the 41st millennium too. apparently.
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maciek

OK. I can agree, that scythemen are suitable for Sedgemoor battle.

As I'm not very interested to Monmouth's rebellion, I had to refer the Wikipedia for description of action:
There was a delay while the rhine was crossed and the first men across startled a royalist patrol. A shot was fired and a horseman from the patrol galloped off to report to Feversham. Lord Grey of Warke led the rebel cavalry forward and they were engaged by the King's Regiment of Horse which alerted the rest of the royalist forces. The superior training of the regular army and their horses routed the rebel forces by outflanking them.

Augh ! It seems that again, the cavalry played the decisive role !
Cavalry, that is currently unavailable ....  :'(
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J.S.

Well, seems like the msytery has been solved



Maybe not the most essential troops of the period but they were there.


QuoteDo you mean this AWI stuff, that doesn't include any of Partiot Dragoons nor mounted Legions, essential for every battle fought in the South after 1779 ... ?

I think its no problem to make a simple painting conversion here..


It's seldom possible to satisfy everyone.. If the guys with the scythes hadn't been made, there'd surely be someone complaining that it's absolutely impossible to model battle xyz of theatre zyx and therefore the whole LoA league is useless.
Maybe the Pendraken guys just learned their lesson form not having released tarletoned cavalry in the first or second AWI wave  :-\
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QuoteIt's seldom possible to satisfy everyone.. If the guys with the scythes hadn't been made, there'd surely be someone complaining that it's absolutely impossible to model battle xyz of theatre zyx and therefore the whole LoA league is useless.
I agree. Totally.
....
But for the moment, without cavalry, it's absolutely impossible to model any battle.
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clibinarium

Scythe men are essential troop types for anyone gaming either the Monmouth Rebellion or the Irish War, which is likely for many gamers.

Cavalry is obviously essential, but I can't bring all the figures necessary to the range at the flick of a switch, especially when producing so much variation in individual packs.  A good range takes time to build, the alternative would be (as stated by Leon before) to keep everything under wraps until its all finished. There have been hitches with the cavalry dollies which have held up the AWI and LoA cavalry, but we nearly have those sorted out now.
I don't get a lot of time to work on 10mm, currently 28mm LoA cavalry are taking up most of my work hours.

On the musket length; as with the AWI the muskets look short as they have to be much thicker than in scale thickness would be  to cast in 10mm, but the "scale" length is retained (roughly from the ground to the shoulder of a man). If made any longer they'd be approaching the man's height. The exaggerations like larger than scale hands also conspire to make the muskets look small.

goat major

Thanks for the update Clib ! The new figures look great btw
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Quote from: clibinarium on 12 January 2012, 11:06:28 PM


On the musket length; as with the AWI the muskets look short as they have to be much thicker than in scale thickness would be  to cast in 10mm, but the "scale" length is retained (roughly from the ground to the shoulder of a man). If made any longer they'd be approaching the man's height. The exaggerations like larger than scale hands also conspire to make the muskets look small.

As Clibby says.....I'm afraid there just has to be some sort of compromise at this scale, so the little chaps can be moulded and cast successfully......The other fact to consider is that if it were possible to get them out of the mould, the weapons (whether spears/javelins/polearms or muskets/rifles/SLRs would be be so incredibly fragile; that these parts of the figures would get broken with alarming regularity.
If we made as true a scale model as possible, just imagine how thin many of them would be be just at the ankles....Snap ! ;)
It would obviously be possible (though pretty damn fiddly) to convert the weapons using finer brass rod than has to be used on the master figures.....Personally, I think doing that on large numbers of models would be soul destroying....It would drive me totally spare.... ;D ;D ;D....But it gives me an idea for just a single figure in the painting comp. ;)

Cheers - Phil.

Peritas

Thanks a lot Maciek :)

But Im interesting in ORBATS about french and british.

About your comments AWI totally agree that the range is not over and that our friend Leon must work a little bit more. ;D

Best Regards and please anybody could give us these ORBATS?? :'(

Chad

Peritas

Try this link.


http://www.digam.net/?str=120

You have to do a little searching and from memory the information is contained on maps in some cases.


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Peritas

When you reach the link, you will see a search field on the left hand side marked 'Suchen'. Type in Landen for example and it will go to a page that contains a lot of 1692-3 info. maps, some OOBs, etc.

Chad

maciek

... or let Maciek to search it for you  :)

Schlachtordnung der Franzosen gegen die Alliierten bei Steenkerke in Brabant,
http://www.digam.net/image.php?file=dokumente/5740/1.jpg&b=1000

Schlachtordnung der Alliierten gegen die Franzosen bei Steenkerke in Brabant
http://www.digam.net/image.php?file=dokumente/5740/1.jpg&b=1000
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J.S.

Great link! Try out "Pfälzischer Erbfolgekrieg" (that's the German name for the War of the League of Augsburg) and you'll find quite a lot of orbats (="Schlachtordnung" in German)
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nikharwood

Quote from: maciek on 13 January 2012, 01:10:47 PM
... or let Maciek to search it for you  :)

He's good like that  ;) Thank you my friend  :)

clibinarium

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The new figures shown will be heading off to Pendraken HQ in the next few days.

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