Hail Caesar

[Nosher]

So, its official. Rick P is finally set to release Hail Caesar 'sometime' in April so will you be buying it?

In traditional Grumpy Old Man mode - its a yes from me but not without a moan first

I still think £30 (not including postage) is steep for a rulebook.

I'm not a fluff man. I find Rick's 'talk to wargamers as if they are children' narration style to be quite churlish.

Does the book really need all the eye candy? Wouldn't the space that could be served by sticking to the point and halving the eye candy be better put to use in having army lists?

Rant over, credit card spanked and no doubt I'll be venting my spleen again when the book arrives late due to unforseen circumstances beyond our control!

[Steve J]

"No" from me. I'm quite happy with the Warmaster Ancients/Medievals range of rules.

Funnily enough we were talking about this at the club last week. The consensus was that it would impact upon the WAB/FoG gamers rather than WMAs. I agree that it is expensive for a rulebook, especially one without any 'lists' that I for one always appreciate in a book.

[fred.]

I'll not be getting them in April - I too am quite happy with Warmaster Ancients used for Fantasy though.

My main gaming partner is keen on the sound Hail Caesar though, so I will probably see how they play.

[nikharwood]

I've voted yes - although I won't get them in April - I'll wait until they're discounted in someone's sale at some point [or pick up a good secondhand copy from someone who's bought them & doesn't like them  ]

I won't play them though - I'm way too much sold on WMA / WMM as my coolio rulesets [& they don't give every unit a shooting ability - which seems to be completely  bonkers if you ask me] - the book'll get the coffee table treatment...for flick-value 

[Maenoferren]

voted nope.....could buy a lot of 10mm figures for that price 

[Aquahog]

I'll be getting it for trial and reading. But I won't give up WMA/WMM for it. Unless it's reeeeally good which I doubt.

[Pruneau]

Voted no, still have an unused crusader rulebook + army lists lying here and we end up playing HOTT most of the time anyway coz it's so fast and simple.

[capthugeca]

I'm a no person too.
£30 is too much and I'm happy with HOTT, DBM and SoHB

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Yes cause I get shed loads of Amazon vouchers, so in effect free.

IanS

[goat major]

probably not. I'm not much into ancients nowadays - £30 is fair i think for a good quality rulebook that gets used but as a casual read its a bit too much. If the mechanisms are fun then i may juist be tempted - i'll probably wait to see how well it performs under review.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Is there a 'maybe' catagory, I'd like to play it first, see how busted it is, before I  commit to spending my cash on it...

[Grenadier]

I've spent so much on rulebooks lately I doubt it. I just picked up Impetvs and Blackpowder and $90 was sucked from my wallet. I wonder how much different from his WMA it will be. I do like WMA as well as Impetvs and I'm also looking to get the new Polemos ancients set coming soon.

[NTM]

Based on what I have read so far these will be my rules of choice for Ancient/Medieval but I will not be buying yet. Like Nik I will wait for discounted copies to show up. Also this year I have decided to concetrate on WW2 in general and NWE in particular this year so do not need any more distractions.

[Wkeyser]

Nope, sorry really dislike the entire Warmaster engine. Has some fun ideas for Fantasy, in fact love it for my 10mm fantasy figures but the whole concept is deeply flawed as a representation of warfare. It is a fun game but that is it.

There are just too many other great games out there to bother with this warmed over Games Workshop rehash of 1970s wargame ideas. Take a look at Hoplamachi for Greek warfare by the Perfect Captain a fantastic take on the warfare of the period, Shattered lances and Iron Bow for a great take on the Crusades. There is so much innovative stuff out there that is trying to capture the period I just don’t have the time to figure out ways to make for example Black Powder actually work!

I want to try and capture history on my table not play with toy soldier!  

Now of course that is all in my humble opinion and as much as I don’t like to admit it, every one has the right to disagree


William

[Steve J]

I believe that this months Wargames Illustrated will have a Hail Caeser battle report for those that are interested. I'm not one of them by the way.