Soviets absolutely tonked in "Modern Spearhead "

[Last Hussar]

Nah, I think mine were build in Liverpool...

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Thought Tankograd was nearer to Kyvi. Nearest tank factory to Liverpool was in Preston, and clsed in late 40's

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Ahem!
https://www.thetankfactory.co.uk/

[Last Hussar]

All I know is I got them from the Guardroom in Dunstable in 88 or 89.

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Ahem!
https://www.thetankfactory.co.uk/

OK why a link to a film studio ?

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

OK why a link to a film studio ?

It's in a former tank factory

[petedavies]

Regarding the use of T-72's... I archived a post from the MSH Yahoo group many years ago to justify mine    Here is an extract:

"...

The GSFG was an administrative organisation, and not a combat one.

The organisation included forces that in wartime would be subordinated to three
different fronts.

These fronts included formations from the Soviet and Warsaw Pact armies.

The mobilisation for war would not have begun in Germany, but in the Soviet
Union. That is, the lower readiness category divisions would have commenced
mobilisation and transportation to the forward areas somewhat a month before the
commencement of the offensive.

The forward divisions in the offensive would likely to have come from the lower
readiness units, and therefore would almost certainly have included T-72s coming
from the Moscow and Belorussian MDs among others.

..."

Be interested to hear other opinions, either for or against!

Cheers,
Pete

[Last Hussar]

I've just tried to find basis of my labelling; 61st Guards Regiment (it's tank). I must have taken this from somewhere, but I have no idea where.   

[pierre the shy]

61st Guards Tank Regiment was part of the 10th Guards Tank Division which was itself part of 3rd Army under Group of Soviet Forces Germany. 

https://www.ww2.dk/new/army/td/10gvtd.htm

3rd Army was expected to be the main opponent for BAOR wasn't it?

[Last Hussar]

Cheers.

[flamingpig0]

No worse than WRG Armored Warfare 1950-1985 -

I have a fondness for those but that may be because they were the second "proper" set of wargame rules I owned.

[dylan]

Further.
Having checked the MSH stats, there is no difference, apart from the T64 has a gun launched missile... which is no better than the gun (or even worse depending if I am fielding the '78 version, or the '85).

Time to read the Arty rules   

You should not be using the original MSH datacard for the Soviets if you can avoid it.  John Moher authorised a replacement which has more correct stats lines (for example, the original MSH datacard doesn't even give the stock T-64 a 115mm gun!)
Anyway, for GSFG in 1980s you have a choice of T-64A, T-64B, T-64BV, T-80B or T-80BV.  (The BV variants from 1985 on only.) The CGF in Czechoslovakia had T-72A.