25 pdrs and smoke

Started by richafricanus, 23 March 2025, 08:40:29 AM

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Big Insect

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Not on the rules I have

Yes, Fred? And your point is what exactly?
All are off-table units - so the blanket ruling on Off-table artillery firing Smoke applies.
The two rocket launchers have Smoke against them specifically, because an un-named 'pedant' during the proof reading and playtesting stage, insisted that rocket-launcher are not 'artillery' ... so I put it in.

TBF folks - the rules are clear - ALL OFF-TABLE ARTILLERY CAN FIRE SMOKE (as per P49) - if your list has Smoke Assets and you have bought those Smoke Assets.

Thank you
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Big Insect

Quote from: fred. on 06 April 2025, 08:55:02 PM4) And what does your comment on the 31st March that I have quoted twice about Smoke mean?

Which quotes Fred?
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Big Insect

06 April 2025, 09:07:07 PM #22 Last Edit: 06 April 2025, 09:13:12 PM by Big Insect
QuoteTo indicate that they did fire Smoke and so you can buy if you want to.
Guns which don't have Smoke in the Abilities column (or Illumination etc.) cannot buy those types of ammo.

I have already explained Fred ... I have a number of threads running on Smoke between CWC & BKC  (lord knows why everybody gets so fixated on the darn stuff - TBF) . In CWC the lists were created in a way that meant that all/most units which 'could' fire Smoke ammo had it designated as such in the lists - regardless of whether they were on or off-table. This was primarily because a lot of Cold War games were played with 'what iff' type scenarios.
In BKC - primarily as I was 'recovering' the rules and list from the BKCIII issue - the lists were made a lot simpler. Also, in BKC it was clear from player feedback that the indiscriminate and massed use of Smoke ammo was making the game almost unplayable. Hence the availability of Smoke was limited/restricted.

But if you want to buy Smoke assets for your on-table 81mm/82mm mortars or whatever (regardless of the fact that mainly Smoke ammo was issued as a rarity and for a specific reason), then just go ahead and do so by adding an extra 5pts to the cost of the unit. Simple solution.

The BKC/CWC/FWC army lists are only a guide - they are not (repeat NOT) designed to play competition games with (like DBM/A, MeG, FoG, ADLG etc.). Players are encouraged to undertake their own research and ideally use historical OOBs.
The list are for quick, pick-up 'club-night' friendly games.
If you want 'serious' lists, as stated above then the excellent Micro-Mark lists are available to be bought.

Many thanks
Mark
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