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24 October 2025, 11:53:42 PM #20
Quote from: Big Insect on 17 July 2025, 08:04:36 PMInteresting observation re GW & LotR. The GW LotR range, based in the film were, in my humble opinion, pretty much spot on. At least in my imagination. Tolkien describes Orcs as broken, twisred and corrupted elves, with regard to their origins (or 'back story' as it is now called).
So yes, that woukd be a good depiction.
Apart from the fact that Tolkien only refers to Orcs with Spears, bows and swords. No mention of Pikes or Crossbows for them.

Secondly I am not broken or twisted, but possibly corrupted.  :)
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Big Insect

27 October 2025, 04:15:35 PM #21
Quote from: Orcs on 24 October 2025, 11:53:42 PMApart from the fact that Tolkien only refers to Orcs with Spears, bows and swords. No mention of Pikes or Crossbows for them.

Secondly I am not broken or twisted, but possibly corrupted.  :)


Ah yes, the old pikes v lances v spears conundrum ... it's all a bit like the "how long is a piece of string?" question.
I'm not sure that Tolkien actually refers to crossbows specifically at all (although I am happy to be educated upon such matters).
"Wat's its gots in its pocketzes, my precious." - pieces of string, an old bit of half-chewed chewing gum, paper clips, dried up prunes, a nasty snotty tissue and the skeletons of boys who've crawled away to die (curtesy of N. Molesworth Esq.)
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Orcs

27 October 2025, 04:55:30 PM #22
Quote from: Big Insect on 27 October 2025, 04:15:35 PMAh yes, the old pikes v lances v spears conundrum ... it's all a bit like the "how long is a piece of string?" question.
I'm not sure that Tolkien actually refers to crossbows specifically at all (although I am happy to be educated upon such matters).
"Wat's its gots in its pocketzes, my precious." - pieces of string, an old bit of half-chewed chewing gum, paper clips, dried up prunes, a nasty snotty tissue and the skeletons of boys who've crawled away to die (curtesy of N. Molesworth Esq.)

Tolkien mentions curved scimitars, short broad-bladed swords, spears, knives, and bows for the Orcs - Boromior dies from multiple arrow wounds.

I suspect the Pikes are for visual effect on the mass battle scenes, rather than accuracy.
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Life is not a matter of holding good cards, but of playing a poor hand well. - Robert Louis Stevenson

Last Hussar

27 October 2025, 05:35:12 PM #23
Cozy accuracy in fantasy fiction is paramount?

I had the part work. The figures for the 9 were spot on.
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Orcs

27 October 2025, 10:45:36 PM #24
Quote from: Last Hussar on 27 October 2025, 05:35:12 PMCozy accuracy in fantasy fiction is paramount?


Tolkien is historical fact! :D
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Big Insect

28 October 2025, 05:43:33 PM #25
I can see the T-shirt:

Tolkien is Trooof!
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28 October 2025, 05:54:07 PM #26
Quote from: Big Insect on 28 October 2025, 05:43:33 PMI can see the T-shirt:

Tolkien is Trooof!

I would wear dat
You may refer to me as: Your Grace, Duke Speedy of Leighton.
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