Deaths in 2024

[pierre the shy]

the most unique funeral I have gone to saw us carry out my good friend Rob's casket with "Bat out of Hell" being played "loudly" in accordance with his last wishes.

Unsurprisingly Rob was a great Meatloaf fan. A few months before he past Rob got to meet him in person when Meatloaf was touring in NZ for the final time. That certainly ticked quite a few boxes on Rob's bucket list   

[Big Insect]

It's got to be 'Brothers in Arms' by Dire Straights at the end of my funeral - not a dry eye in the house 

[Raider4]

If you want tears, "Bright Eyes" by Art Garfunkel.

Add "Wonderful World" and "We Have All the Time in the World", both by Louis Armstrong, for extra effect.

[T13A]

Hi

Michael Culver died back in February: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Culver

One of those faces from TV in the past.

Paul

[John Cook]

A friend of mine who died after a short struggle with cancer had The Eagles 'Hotel California' to open the proceedings and The Crazy World of Arthur Brown's 'Fire' to wind them up.  Needless to say he was not religious.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

OJ Simpson

[d_Guy]

OJ Simpson

A brilliant football player with a brilliant defense attorney.

[Elliesdad]

I've noticed the BBC keep saying OJ was "cleared".
A verdict of Not Guilty is not the same as someone imagining they have been cleared.
To be fair, plenty of people also say this - despite the fact it is not correct.

Cheers,

Geoff

[Last Hussar]

Isn't it?

[Gwydion]

If a person is charged with a crime they remain innocent until proven guilty in common law jurisdictions.
An acquittal in court removes all guilt in law. They were innocent and remain innocent.
Whatever the facts and common sense may say!
Not sure of the semantic point not being 'cleared' is making. I suppose there was nothing for them to be 'cleared' of save an accusation subsequently 'proved' false?

[Last Hussar]

I only see the guilty ones.

[Orcs]

If a person is charged with a crime they remain innocent until proven guilty in common law jurisdictions.
An acquittal in court removes all guilt in law. They were innocent and remain innocent.
Whatever the facts and common sense may say!
Not sure of the semantic point not being 'cleared' is making. I suppose there was nothing for them to be 'cleared' of save an accusation subsequently 'proved' false?

Surely he is dead now, so innocent/ guilty / acquitted, does not bother him any more 

[Nick the Lemming]

Akebono.

[Last Hussar]

Thanks for posting someone who is 3 months younger than me...

[Gwydion]

Surely he is dead now, so innocent/ guilty / acquitted, does not bother him any more 

Doesn't bother him, doesn't bother me, it seemed to be bothering Ellie's dad. I just wondered why?

[streetgang]

If a person is charged with a crime they remain innocent until proven guilty in common law jurisdictions.
An acquittal in court removes all guilt in law. They were innocent and remain innocent.
Whatever the facts and common sense may say!
Not sure of the semantic point not being 'cleared' is making. I suppose there was nothing for them to be 'cleared' of save an accusation subsequently 'proved' false?

Simpson was acquitted in the criminal trial, however Simpson was also found liable by jurors in a 1997 wrongful death lawsuit.

[Ithoriel]

Simpson was acquitted in the criminal trial, however Simpson was also found liable by jurors in a 1997 wrongful death lawsuit.

Schrödinger's criminal?

[Gwydion]

A civil action with a different standard of proof - balance of probabilities vice beyond reasonable doubt.
He remained not guilty of murder in criminal law and - at that point - a free man.

[streetgang]

A civil action with a different standard of proof - balance of probabilities vice beyond reasonable doubt.
He remained not guilty of murder in criminal law and - at that point - a free man.

Indeed. He was deemed not guilty in a criminal sense and yet he was liable for their deaths in the civil manner. So his being "cleared" (whatever that is) only applies in one sense (the criminal).

"Cleared" is not a legal term for an outcome that I have ever heard professionally in 22+ years dealing with these matters.

[John Cook]

When I did jury service, over 15 years ago now, the judge told us that we had to "be sure" before we could return our verdict, or words to that effect.  When we retired three barrack room lawyers on the jury embarked on a heated argument on what "being sure" meant and, presumably brought up on TV courtroom dramas, asked if "being sure" was the same as "beyond reasonable doubt".  Our foreman asked the question and we were told that "being sure" had replaced "beyond reasonable doubt" to avoid confusion in the minds of jurors, and because the term "beyond reasonable doubt" implied that a degree of doubt still remained.  Anyway, in the case of OJ, I ran out of s***s to give many years ago but in a common sense context, I have no confusion where the meaning of "cleared" and "acquitted" is concerned.