Is the AMX10RC a tank?

Started by fsn, 06 January 2023, 10:12:19 PM

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Leon

10 January 2023, 01:14:11 AM #30
Let's keep this friendly guys, I've been enjoying the back and forth here.  I've never really considered what constitutes a tank beyond turret, tracks, big gun so I think I've simplified things too far to just what 'looks' like a tank?! 

When we released the recent Soviet IFVs some of them ticked all of my 'tank' boxes but didn't 'look' like tanks...  They looked like IFVs...
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fsn

10 January 2023, 07:50:43 AM #31
Apologies Leon. Apologies Westie.

No offence meant on my part.

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fsn

10 January 2023, 08:07:14 AM #32
I leave without comment the chap from the Telegraph trying to define a tank. From about 21:45.
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Westmarcher

10 January 2023, 11:21:44 AM #33 Last Edit: 10 January 2023, 11:33:13 AM by Westmarcher
QuoteLet's keep this friendly guys, I've been enjoying the back and forth here.  I've never really considered what constitutes a tank beyond turret, tracks, big gun so I think I've simplified things too far to just what 'looks' like a tank?! 

When we released the recent Soviet IFVs some of them ticked all of my 'tank' boxes but didn't 'look' like tanks...  They looked like IFVs...

We've corresponded and it's all good between us, Leon. Perhaps I was feeling over sensitive at the time.
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Leon

10 January 2023, 01:59:19 PM #34
We'll be throwing the cat amongst the pigeons with the new Sci-Fi ranges, as I've got a lot of MBTs in there that'll be either anti-grav or wheeled...
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fsn

10 January 2023, 02:05:41 PM #35
 ;D  ;D  ;D

Thanks for that.
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Big Insect

11 January 2023, 10:50:15 AM #36
Quote from: Leon on 10 January 2023, 01:59:19 PMWe'll be throwing the cat amongst the pigeons with the new Sci-Fi ranges, as I've got a lot of MBTs in there that'll be either anti-grav or wheeled...

What about the ones that can teleport Leon ... ;)
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FierceKitty

11 January 2023, 11:57:47 AM #37
Quote from: Leon on 10 January 2023, 01:59:19 PMWe'll be throwing the cat amongst the pigeons with the new Sci-Fi ranges, as I've got a lot of MBTs in there that'll be either anti-grav or wheeled...

Leave me out of this!
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sultanbev

11 January 2023, 12:19:46 PM #38
Quote from: Big Insect on 11 January 2023, 10:50:15 AMWhat about the ones that can teleport Leon ... ;)

Is that for Flames of War WW2 games, where teleporting platoons is quite normal?

Orcs

11 January 2023, 03:27:58 PM #39
Quote from: sultanbev on 11 January 2023, 12:19:46 PMIs that for Flames of War WW2 games, where teleporting platoons is quite normal?


Yes and it does not matter what role the vehicle had, you just line them up like they are in a car park. :)
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Big Insect

12 January 2023, 09:21:36 AM #40
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Quote from: Orcs on 11 January 2023, 03:27:58 PMYes and it does not matter what role the vehicle had, you just line them up like they are in a car park. :)

But just think of all those vehicles that Leon could sell ... isnt that the Flames of War model????
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sultanbev

12 January 2023, 12:12:01 PM #41
Saw a game of FoW recently at the Burnley club, I nearly quit wargaming altogether on the spot - one of the most depressing wargames experiences since WRG 4th edition. Ugh.

Some rules writers have no concept of physics.  =)

John Cook

13 January 2023, 04:40:32 AM #42
The difference between tanks and other AFV, tracked or otherwise, lies in their intended role and the characteristics they have to perform that role. I have never been confused.

T13A

13 January 2023, 09:46:09 AM #43
Wot John said.

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toxicpixie

14 January 2023, 10:11:32 AM #44
Quote from: pierre the shy on 06 January 2023, 10:33:25 PMIt's certainly not a tank fsn (though the media will probably call it one as its got a turret with a large gun).

The French originally treated it as a fire support vehicle, and more latterly as a tank destroyer, though the article below points out that its not really that capable any more in that role against current tanks.

http://www.military-today.com/artillery/amx_10_rc.htm



Fortunately for the Ukrainian armed forces, they're not exactly facing many modern vehicles!

That 105 should mash up a good proportion of Russian armour, doubly so if the Russians are starting to employ a lot of T-62...
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