Napoleonics

[Coracero]

Personally I prefer single pose packs BUT with a few variants of the same pose please (like AWI range)... I hate to have units of massed clones!.

[Jagger]

I really like both the AWI and ACW multi-pose lines.  The units look alive.

[Last Hussar]

The problem with the multi pose packs is that there are limited numbers of poses, doing stuff that doesnt go together- I bought a trial pack a couple of years ago, and it was firing/marching/advancing mix (I think); they didn't really mix.  I realise a variation of a pose, is for sculpting costs, a new pose, but ideally the soldiers should be doing similar but still slightly different things - variations of a theme.  Also due to the amount that you buy with 10mm buying different packs and mixing them up isn't a problem.  I can never remember the make up of multi pose packs.

Also seperate command packs is my personal preference

[Coracero]

I totally agree with you Hussar. 

[CATenWolde]

The thing that has kept me (and many others I think) away from converting wholesale to 10mm Napoleonics is lack of depth in lines, not lack of variety in figures.  In other words, if there is a choice between covering the period in a complete fashion or having a less complete line with more pack variation, I'll go with completeness of the line every time.  Multi-pose packs in a line that doesn't allow me to actually collect and play the period aren't any use to anybody.

The period as a whole (or even just considering the early period pre-1809) is so massive that it really can't be compared to the AWI or ACW periods, which were much more straightforward and bilateral wars.  I long ago put together comprehensive figure type lists for the 1796-1800 period, just in Italy, and the number of pack types was huge.  It's not that I wouldn't want minor pose variations (2-3 per pack max), but realistically I would rather see other troop types - which would probably also sell more packs per investment in sculpting than poses would.

Cheers,

Christopher

[Coracero]

You are right about the lack of depth in some lines Christopher, but the thing that detract me most is having all the members of a unit looking like clones, I like it a bit more dinamic... but as you said realistically there can't be so many variations like in AWI range. If I have to choice I would conform with something like this: infantry in march attack pose (2-3 variations), firing/loading for skirmishes and cavalry (2 variations)... very little for some people for sure!.

[Jagger]

-------------You are right about the lack of depth in some lines Christopher, but the thing that detract me most is having all the members of a unit looking like clones,-----

The same for me.  Thiry years ago, the line of statues was OK.  Today, I just puts me off.

-----------The problem with the multi pose packs is that there are limited numbers of poses, doing stuff that doesnt go together----------

I agree here as well.  I have picked up a number of packs containing several poses but the poses were incompatible.   It sort of defeats the purpose unless the figures are for a minor unit type requiring only a limited number of units.

The ACW line works well with even a limited number of poses in a pack.    I could easily build a whole army just with the advancing pack with their three or four poses.  Although the marching pack is also excellent.  The AWI line is a dream come true with the huge variety of poses but I can understand not to expect that sort of line everyday.  The ACW line seems a nice compromise between the ideal of the AWI line and the single pose statue look. 

[Ben Waterhouse]

Cavalry and Artillery Pretty please!

(And Russians, Prussians, Brits, various weird micro states,  Indians, Ottomans...)

[Leon]

One of the designers is interested in doing a new range for these, plus we've had a few requests for them.  No timescales on it though.

[Aart Brouwer]

What it says.

I could use a sapper with my Napoleonic troops. A generic sapper in a bearskin would be best. He could be used for all nationalities.

Hark! Is that the sound of a designer running off to the library to get sapper monographies, sapper pictures, sapper stories, a copy of Ye Compleat Sappere?  

Cheers,
Aart

[Leon]

I looked at the Sappers when I was doing some reading for the new range.  I would think they would get done at some point.

[17-21l]

What! theres going to be a new Napoleonic Range!!??
Any chance of ........

Ok ok ok

[Leon]

What! theres going to be a new Napoleonic Range!!??
Any chance of ........

Ok ok ok

[Aart Brouwer]

I looked at the Sappers when I was doing some reading for the new range.  I would think they would get done at some point.

Has said point been reached, Leon? Or is it in sight? My 94^ème and 95^èmede Ligne can not invade Prussia without decent sapper support.

Otherwise, I'm afraid I'll have to make do by cutting up some grenadiers (in bearskins) and giving them an apron made from cigarette paper... 

Cheers,
Aart

[Leon]

Has said point been reached, Leon? Or is it in sight? My 94^ème and 95^èmede Ligne can not invade Prussia without decent sapper support.

Otherwise, I'm afraid I'll have to make do by cutting up some grenadiers (in bearskins) and giving them an apron made from cigarette paper... 

I think you'll have to get the cigarette papers out, cos we've got to do the foot, mounted, artillery and the command first!

[Aart Brouwer]

I think you'll have to get the cigarette papers out, cos we've got to do the foot, mounted, artillery and the command first!

I know, I know, and I love you anyway.

Seriously, it's no big deal. Maybe I'll put up some pics of my ciggerdier/grenafag conversions, either because they succeed or because I need help from others...  

Cheers,
Aart

[Aart Brouwer]

Actually my grenappers are coming along nicely.  

Fortunately, the bearskins of 1806 French grenadiers aren't that different from those of the period French sappers, so I have taken the liberty of converting some grenadiers.  

I have already remodelled their guns into axe stems by trimming them down and adding flat, axe-head shaped pieces of pewter which I nipped off the flag staffs of some French 1806 flagbearers. The French didn't bring flags to battle in the first place, and since the Pendraken command packs do not contain sergeants with spontoons I have to 'remodel' some flagbearers into sergeants anyway. So I cut some flag staff bits into the required length, flattened them with the aid of a nipper, cut them into axe-head shape and grafted them onto the stems with superglue. They look fine so far, and I trust the 6 gentlemen will be quite convincing after I've added the cigarette paper aprons and painted them off white.

Allonz'enfants!  

Cheers,
Aart

EDIT

BTW I really wonder how many Napoleonic players (as well as rule-makers!) make do without sappers...

[KaBar]

Hello, first post here.  Looking at doing a major Napoleonic project in 10mm over the next few years, so the news of the new range is exciting.  I personally would like to see a few variants for mounted & dismounted officers and suitable figures for sergeants/file closers.  Looking at doing larger units with the supernumeraries behind the rankers and would prefer to not have them all look exactly alike.   

While a few variations in pose for the rank & file would be nice, the only place I think multiple poses are really necessary in this scale is for skirmishers.   

Looking forward to the new range!


Bart

[Leon]

Hello, first post here.  Looking at doing a major Napoleonic project in 10mm over the next few years, so the news of the new range is exciting.  I personally would like to see a few variants for mounted & dismounted officers and suitable figures for sergeants/file closers.  Looking at doing larger units with the supernumeraries behind the rankers and would prefer to not have them all look exactly alike.   

While a few variations in pose for the rank & file would be nice, the only place I think multiple poses are really necessary in this scale is for skirmishers.   

Looking forward to the new range!

Bart

Welcome to the Forum Bart!  We've gone for a slight difference in the march pose, just to give a bit of variation.

[KaBar]

Hi Leon,

Thanks for the welcome.   The variations in march attack will be nice.  Any hints as to when the first figures will hit the market? 

Bart