Napoleonics

[Leon]

I'll make a note of the 'no cast on flags'.  That way we can sell you some flags as well!

[Last Hussar]

Phew- gives me an excuse to wait till next year before going over the top in another 10mm period!

Personally I'd like to see single pose packs- a unit doing 3 seperate things looks a bit odd.

2 flag poles with the Brits please!

[Aart Brouwer]

I'll make a note of the 'no cast on flags'.  That way we can sell you some flags as well!

And not just flags. I cant wait to see your EE (Early Empire) line. If you deliver and produce 1806 Prussians and Saxons and early bicorned French voltigeurs and whatnot by 2011, I can assure you there's a lot more you can sell me, including your mother in law. I'm really pleased about this news. It is obvious that a few posts in a forum do not a market niche make, but this thread alone must be worth a couple thousand quid in prospective Pendraken orders.  

Cheers,
Aart

[Jagger]

--------Personally I'd like to see single pose packs------------

Ouch, I am exactly the opposite.  I like dynamic units composed of multple-poses as with their AWI, Late Roman and most other Pendraken lines.  Single pose figures look like a line of statues rather than a unit of troops-way too much of a static look. 

And right now, every manufacturer is single pose for Napoleonics which is the primary reason I haven't done Napoleonics in 10mm. 

[Leon]

It's a never ending debate between single/multi pose packs.  At the moment we're leaning towards single pose.  We could maybe do a slight variation of that pose, but by doing two completely different poses, you immediately double the time/cost needed to get the range designed.  If you look at the way our SYW/Marlburian ranges are structured, we'll probably do something similar to that, and then people can mix and match to their hearts content.

[Coracero]

Personally I prefer single pose packs BUT with a few variants of the same pose please (like AWI range)... I hate to have units of massed clones!.

[Jagger]

I really like both the AWI and ACW multi-pose lines.  The units look alive.

[Last Hussar]

The problem with the multi pose packs is that there are limited numbers of poses, doing stuff that doesnt go together- I bought a trial pack a couple of years ago, and it was firing/marching/advancing mix (I think); they didn't really mix.  I realise a variation of a pose, is for sculpting costs, a new pose, but ideally the soldiers should be doing similar but still slightly different things - variations of a theme.  Also due to the amount that you buy with 10mm buying different packs and mixing them up isn't a problem.  I can never remember the make up of multi pose packs.

Also seperate command packs is my personal preference

[Coracero]

I totally agree with you Hussar. 

[CATenWolde]

The thing that has kept me (and many others I think) away from converting wholesale to 10mm Napoleonics is lack of depth in lines, not lack of variety in figures.  In other words, if there is a choice between covering the period in a complete fashion or having a less complete line with more pack variation, I'll go with completeness of the line every time.  Multi-pose packs in a line that doesn't allow me to actually collect and play the period aren't any use to anybody.

The period as a whole (or even just considering the early period pre-1809) is so massive that it really can't be compared to the AWI or ACW periods, which were much more straightforward and bilateral wars.  I long ago put together comprehensive figure type lists for the 1796-1800 period, just in Italy, and the number of pack types was huge.  It's not that I wouldn't want minor pose variations (2-3 per pack max), but realistically I would rather see other troop types - which would probably also sell more packs per investment in sculpting than poses would.

Cheers,

Christopher

[Coracero]

You are right about the lack of depth in some lines Christopher, but the thing that detract me most is having all the members of a unit looking like clones, I like it a bit more dinamic... but as you said realistically there can't be so many variations like in AWI range. If I have to choice I would conform with something like this: infantry in march attack pose (2-3 variations), firing/loading for skirmishes and cavalry (2 variations)... very little for some people for sure!.

[Jagger]

-------------You are right about the lack of depth in some lines Christopher, but the thing that detract me most is having all the members of a unit looking like clones,-----

The same for me.  Thiry years ago, the line of statues was OK.  Today, I just puts me off.

-----------The problem with the multi pose packs is that there are limited numbers of poses, doing stuff that doesnt go together----------

I agree here as well.  I have picked up a number of packs containing several poses but the poses were incompatible.   It sort of defeats the purpose unless the figures are for a minor unit type requiring only a limited number of units.

The ACW line works well with even a limited number of poses in a pack.    I could easily build a whole army just with the advancing pack with their three or four poses.  Although the marching pack is also excellent.  The AWI line is a dream come true with the huge variety of poses but I can understand not to expect that sort of line everyday.  The ACW line seems a nice compromise between the ideal of the AWI line and the single pose statue look. 

[Ben Waterhouse]

Cavalry and Artillery Pretty please!

(And Russians, Prussians, Brits, various weird micro states,  Indians, Ottomans...)

[Leon]

One of the designers is interested in doing a new range for these, plus we've had a few requests for them.  No timescales on it though.

[Aart Brouwer]

What it says.

I could use a sapper with my Napoleonic troops. A generic sapper in a bearskin would be best. He could be used for all nationalities.

Hark! Is that the sound of a designer running off to the library to get sapper monographies, sapper pictures, sapper stories, a copy of Ye Compleat Sappere?  

Cheers,
Aart