Why movie explosions look different to real explosions

Started by Last Hussar, 26 December 2021, 12:26:53 PM

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It's because at the top of it's trajectory, it has no vertical velocity.

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While we are on the Venn diagram of "Tom Scott" and "things Pendrakeners have heard of", here is "citation needed" for Mad Jack Churchill.


Gary (in glasses) is normally a motor mouth; watch him at 3m35ish when his normal exaggeration can't match Mad Jack's actual actions.

Also Chris (beard) getting a point for the incorrect answer to Churchill's escape, because by this point ANYTHING is possible!
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Westmarcher

29 December 2021, 01:15:30 PM #22 Last Edit: 29 December 2021, 01:52:17 PM by Westmarcher
 .... meanwhile .... back to Horse & Musket era artillery.  :P 
Did anyone see the "follow-up" YouTube video entitled Artillery Games? I recommend it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPIMqvtocfU
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I have read accounts of WW1 pilots who could see heavy arty shells 'going past'and realising that 'there' was not the place to be!  ;)
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Quote from: Heedless Horseman on 29 December 2021, 02:29:51 PMI have read accounts of WW1 pilots who could see heavy arty shells 'going past'and realising that 'there' was not the place to be!  ;)

Seem to remember that more aircraft were lost due to collisiion with heavy shells than in air to air combat.
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Heedless Horseman

29 December 2021, 04:17:47 PM #25 Last Edit: 29 December 2021, 04:25:52 PM by Heedless Horseman
Not sure about that.
But, most WW1 Memoirs were written by 'Scout/Fighter' pilots... who survived to write.
Just thinking about those who went up in BE2's! Slow, unreliable, no maneuverability, no gun... 'loitering' over very hostile environment...when 'spotting' was 'Their Job'. Daily. A silent Salute to them.
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The recent Russian movie of the Decembrist revolution has IMHO fairly good movie representation of solid shot and canister against dense formations. The St Petersburg square shooting starts at 1h40mins https://youtu.be/uRMmG-0rMVE
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QuoteYou can normally see a feild gun shell to the top of it's trajectory. From then on it disappears from sight. And know I don't know why.
Crossing speed again: On the way up, it is travelling almost directly away.


Past the top, it is tracking faster relative to the shooter's viewpoint.

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The thing that strikes me about that ACW artillery video is the sound it makes, almost a whistling, vibrating sound.  Having a whole battery of those aimed your way with that horrendous incoming noise, then seeing them impact around you, must have been terrifying.
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True. And relatively low MV means time to hear incoming.
But ANY incoming Arty would be Most unpleasant. WW1 'Wizz Bangs', WW2 'Moaning Minies'...
HV AT rounds... 88 or 75... not much time to register before the Clang.

One can only imagine the fear among 'formed' troops having to advance across 'Real' battlefield distances.. not just a few table inches... when under fire.

Having no experience... and thinking 'Table' Distances... seeing Vid of actual battlefields... My God...How did They do it?
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When I attended the Austerlitz bicentenary, one of the things that most struck me was the way the ground - frozen iron-hard - transmitted terrifying vibrations when the guns fired. Add to that the consciousness that they were trying to kill you, and you've got a good understanding of why units roll 1 on their reaction tests.

I was also struck by how good hot mead is in freezing weather, and how awkward it is to hang around with a trainee you fancy but whose exam you'll have to grade in a week!
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Heedless Horseman

Same with Cavalry.You can often FEEL the ground  vibrate when several horses are on the move.. and If they were coming At You with Intent...
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My police training did involve the mounted branch charging us, and yes it was terrifing
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02 January 2022, 05:22:31 AM #33 Last Edit: 02 January 2022, 06:53:36 AM by Heedless Horseman
A few years ago. a very lovely Gel of my aquaintance, asked whether I would accompany her 'To the Races'. Full of expectation, my intent was to get 'trackside'... and experience the 'Thunder of Hooves' at close quarters!
Sadly. her 'garment'... it was 'Ladies Day'... meant that She was feeling a little  bit  cold and that drinkies were required. Being a Gentleman of sorts, I, of course, acceded... and did not get Anywhere close!
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