ACW thoughts - Who makes a credible "Union" blue?

Started by Waremblem, 28 September 2020, 12:38:24 AM

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Shecky

I've tried Vallejo Oxford Blue and agree it has a purplish tint. My preferred Union blue is Vallejo Dark Prussian Blue with a Prussian Blue highlight.

Westmarcher

Has anyone tried any of the blues available from Warlord? It's always difficult to assess what you see on screen and what you get in reality but here's the link, anyway.

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/individual-paints/paints-painting+paint-blue


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DaveH

I use Humbrol matt white enamel as an undercoat on metal and hard plastic miniatures. I prefer white for the fact it brings up the colours more than black, particularly on reds and yellows.

I might use try using Vallejo sepia wash on the figures as the black seems a bit too strong though if I drybrush a highlight it may not be such an issue, or create my own with Dark Prussian Blue thinned down and with my usual flow improver added.

Waremblem

Quote from: Westmarcher on 29 September 2020, 09:10:30 AM
Has anyone tried any of the blues available from Warlord? It's always difficult to assess what you see on screen and what you get in reality but here's the link, anyway.

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/individual-paints/paints-painting+paint-blue


p.s. @ Waremblem: did you get my e-mail with photos?



I did, thank you. Nice terrain btw! Excellent figures, that's in the ballpark.

These warlords paints are interesting. Lots of shades in the blue spectrum. Warpaints electric blue looks like a good pants color. For coats the dark blue appears to have that purple tint. For a Grant uniform look night blue certainly could be a match although at 10mm might be black? Would need white primer I suspect. Warpaints deep blue is intriguing with warpaints ultramarine blue for variety or possibly imperial blue. I'm also curious if anyone has used these?

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From my testing you can go pretty far with the basic Ultramarine Blue from any manufacturer, just use black / grey / dark grey to adjust the hue and you're good to go! ( The darker blue tone could be the base, then highlight with just the ultramarine )

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Heedless Horseman

23 October 2020, 03:22:51 AM #26 Last Edit: 23 October 2020, 03:35:24 AM by Heedless Horseman
For trousers, the 'Howard Hues' blue available from Magister Millitum is excellent...has just the right 'green' hint. BUT... the big pots tend to dry if not used...although they may be saved with some watering if done in time! The Union blue for jackets from same source gave a reasonable 'BLUE' colour, but I thought Vallejo Dk Prussian was better. A mix of coat  shades is probably best...seeing as Confederates would be in various shades of 'Grey' or 'Stone'.

I spray paint Humbrol Dk Brown, (it is really an 'earth'!),  as base coat...esp in 10mm, as I base figs before painting. In larger scales, esp. 25mm, probably, Grey.
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Leman

Depends whether you want a standardised toy soldier army or something resembling how the troops actually looked on campaign. A newly arrived regiment would have similar dark blue jackets, although the blues of different new regiments would not necessarily be the same as each factory would use a slightly different dye recipe. Troops that had been in the field for a couple of months would have jackets that had started to fade, some even having a puplish tinge to them. There was probably more uniformity in the Union regiments as there was a tendency to form new units rather than reinforce existing ones. The Confederates did reinforce, and sometimes veterans would 'swap' their clothing for that of the new recruits. Probably the best description of painting troops of both sides is to be found in Paul Stevens' guide to Wargaming the American Civil War (or is it Paul Stevenson/Stephenson - it's one of those books that hasn't made it out of the packing case yet).
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Terry37

One comment I'll make re Union Uniforms. The sky blue color for the trousers and he winter coat with cape was not a baby blue shade as is often seen. I matched my paint chips to a real article and it is more like medium-dark sky blue.

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Last Hussar

I go with dark-mid blue ish.

I would guess we don't know what the exact colour is. Even if there was a the 'perfect' example preserved by the union, it would have faded before colour photograph.

It's like the Rebel Yell - no one knows now what it sounded like, It was given at a 1913 Gettysburg dinner for the 50th anniversary (old men embracing former adversaries) for the last time.

I also undercoat grey - white is to bright to paint, black you can't make out the detail!
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