GC for NHS

Started by SV52, 09 April 2020, 10:10:37 AM

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Sandinista

A GC won't restore the broken morale caused by years of under funding. I understand the sentiment, but this is pure tokenism. People are dying because governments have chosen to give tax cuts rather than fund the NHS.

Ian

SV52

Quote from: Sandinista on 10 April 2020, 11:24:42 PM
A GC won't restore the broken morale caused by years of under funding. I understand the sentiment, but this is pure tokenism. People are dying because governments have chosen to give tax cuts rather than fund the NHS.

Ian

My son works for Tesco and has turned out for work every day since this started, he and his colleagues are still having to put up with crap from arseholes blaming everyone for shortages but themselves.  As far as he's concerned he thinks he deserves a medal.

So you can try to politicise this as much as you like as long as you put your cross in the right box on the ballot paper.

OK Moderator you can now close this down as it will inevitably end up a political football and this forum is not the place for it.
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John Cook

A medal awarded for "acts of the greatest heroism or of the most conspicuous courage in circumstances of extreme danger" is not a 'trinket'.  I am sure the people of Malta will be dismayed to hear that the George Cross has now been so devalued.  On the other hand, I think, perhaps, that the advice to keep politics off the forum should be followed. 

John Cook

Quote from: ianrs54 on 09 April 2020, 11:16:51 AM
Occurs to me - I a member of Change, so could start an on-line petition I think...I'll take a look later.

Here is the place to start a petition if you want to attract serious support.  https://petition.parliament.uk/

Go to the bottom of the page to start a new one.  If you get sufficient signatures parliament will have to debate the proposition.

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

Had forgot about that one !
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John Cook

Quote from: ianrs54 on 11 April 2020, 11:07:11 AM
Had forgot about that one !

Shall I let you start it?   Something along the lines of 'On behalf of the People of the United Kingdom, the National Health Service should be awarded the George Cross to bear witness to the courage and devotion of all NHS staff during the COVID 19 crisis 2019 - 2020'.  The precedent for it is the award to the people of Malta during WW2.

 

O Dinas Powys

11 April 2020, 01:52:29 PM #26 Last Edit: 11 April 2020, 01:54:46 PM by O Dinas Powys
Quote from: John Cook on 11 April 2020, 12:19:08 PM
Shall I let you start it?   Something along the lines of 'On behalf of the People of the United Kingdom, the National Health Service should be awarded the George Cross to bear witness to the courage and devotion of all NHS staff during the COVID 19 crisis 2019 - 2020'.  The precedent for it is the award to the people of Malta during WW2.

Just check there isn't one up already - there are multiple on change.org

Edit: just checked and there doesn't appear to be one.
(I know, even though it's fantasy  :o  ;)  )

Lord Kermit of Birkenhead

No John I'll let you do that one - just let us know 
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John Cook

Quote from: ianrs54 on 11 April 2020, 02:29:08 PM
No John I'll let you do that one - just let us know 

I've done that.  This is the link. 

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/315451/sponsors/new?token=Tb3yCPceD4eQAV-9DUFS

It won't go live until it gets five signatures.  When it reaches 21 it will frozen and further signatures will not be possible until it has been checked and passed to proceed.  I suppose this is to stop the loonies wanting to know about UFOs and similar stuff.

Petition your MP too and, since it was her father who instituted the GC and had it awarded to Malta, also petition HM The Queen.  Not sure how you'd do the latter but there is a Royal web-site.

John Cook

Oh dear.  It has been rejected already on the grounds that somebody else has already petitioned for a new medal to be awarded to the NHS, emergency services and military involved in the COVID crisis.  Not the same thing at all but there you go.

John Cook

11 April 2020, 09:52:07 PM #30 Last Edit: 11 April 2020, 09:58:55 PM by John Cook
Cancel my last.  It seems the rejection was somebody else's similar petition which was submitted after mine.    

I've just received an email to say that:

"S***** H***** has supported your petition – "Award the National Health Service the George Cross.".  You have 1 supporter so far.  If 5 people support your petition we'll check it to make sure it meets the petition standards. If it does, we'll publish it"

So here is the link again.  

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/315451/sponsors/new?token=Tb3yCPceD4eQAV-9DUFS

If you want the NHS to be awarded a collective GC, add your signature now.

Westmarcher

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.

jimduncanuk

My Ego forbids a signature.

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Techno

Done.  :)

Cheers - Phil

steve_holmes_11

Quote from: John Cook on 11 April 2020, 09:52:07 PM
Cancel my last.  It seems the rejection was somebody else's similar petition which was submitted after mine.    

I've just received an email to say that:

"S***** H***** has supported your petition – "Award the National Health Service the George Cross.".  You have 1 supporter so far.  If 5 people support your petition we'll check it to make sure it meets the petition standards. If it does, we'll publish it"

So here is the link again.  

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/315451/sponsors/new?token=Tb3yCPceD4eQAV-9DUFS

If you want the NHS to be awarded a collective GC, add your signature now.

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John Cook

Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 12 April 2020, 11:33:19 AM
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John Cook

Hi folks, an update on the petition's progress.  I received this today:

   Dear William John Cook,
Your petition is nearly ready to go.
"Award the National Health Service the George Cross.".
5 people have supported your petition so far. We're checking your petition to make sure it meets the petition standards. If it does, we'll publish it. This usually takes a week or less.
Once your petition has 21 signatures it won't be able to add more until it's been checked. So, please wait until it's been checked and published before sharing it with lots more people.
Find out how we check petitions before we publish them:
https://petition.parliament.uk/help#standards
Thanks,
The Petitions team
UK Government and Parliament   


In due course, if you support the proposition, please disseminate the link as widely as you can.  Thanks

jimduncanuk

My Ego forbids a signature.

jimduncanuk

My Ego forbids a signature.