Covid-19

[Techno]

Sorry if I've been in a 'funny mood' all day.

We had a rather 'heavy' call from the MIL's care home, this morning....Asking us what they should do if (in the worst case scenario) Covid 19 starts running rampant through the residents.
Apparently they're having to ask all the next of kin of the folk in the home, (In this case, Von) if it's a case of, 'Do not resuscitate'.

Urk !  ......Just have to hope it doesn't come to that.

Cheers - Phil

[Ithoriel]

Not easy, Phil. Fingers crossed.

Thankfully, before their Alzheimers / dementia kicked in, both of my parents had Wills drawn up that included a note that they both wanted the 'Do not resuscitate' option if it came to that.

Relieved to have that burden, at least, lifted from me.

[Steve J]

When my Mum was in a home (she always wanted DNR) we had to get two Doctor's to sign the form before it could go on here records. It was also one of the first things they asked before she was admitted.

[paulr]

  Phil

[Heedless Horseman]

Another 'Study' shows that joggers/cyclists etc need a much bigger 'Distancing'...although it is meant to advise those tormented souls not to 'slipstream' but to echelon...avoiding the leader's emissions. 
IMHO...heavy breathing and sweat will give out more potentially contagious moisture...and deep breathing will suck more in. Exercise is SO Healthy for All !!!   
At least, being a 'toxic' smoker, MY breath/smoke-plume is visible and so can be evaded with ease ! 

[Steve J]

That's why I go out on my bike before 7.00am when the roads are very quiet and I avoid the popular cycle paths that I know will be busy.

[Techno]

At least, being a 'toxic' smoker, MY breath/smoke-plume is visible and so can be evaded with ease !  

What a good point !  

That's why I go out on my bike before 7.00am when the roads are very quiet and I avoid the popular cycle paths that I know will be busy.

That's a very good idea, Steve.

I think I forgot to say that yesterday's shop was a case of "Stroll on !"  .....I was about 15minutes later than usual, 'cos of faffing around, looking for my watch.
When I got to the cark park...."Urk "......"Good grief....look at the queue to get into the store ! "
Looked like it was about 200 people. (It wasn't...it was fifty....I got bored standing there, so I counted them. ....It was the 'social distancing' that made the queue look so much longer)

Didn't take anything like as long as I feared to get in, and everybody seemed to be in a good mood. Round the 'one way system' in fairly good time...Just forgot one item...But yet again, a very helpful member of staff saved me from either being naughty, in doing a U-turn, or going back in again.

Good idea at the checkout. They asked everyone going through, NOT to pack the shopping into bags, there & then, but just put everything back in the trolley as it was scanned....and pack everything into the bags in the car-park.
Worked well, as the flow of customers 'in and out' was speedier.

Guess who had forgotten it was Easter weekend, and there would be more folk around.

Mind you...the store's only totally shut on Sunday.....So it's only a single day out of the whole week missing for 'a shop'.

Cheers - Phil

[Raider4]

. . . Round the 'one way system' in fairly good time...

Yeah, my Tesco's has got one of those. I struggle with it. 20+ years of going the same route¹ means my autopilot just takes me around the way I'm accustomed to going.

Went yesterday evening - looks like no one's heard of social distancing around here, or at least doesn't think it applies to them. Sigh.


¹ I really, really struggle when they have their occasional game of moving things around

[Techno]

Have to say, Martyn....That I too have my own route around the aisles. .....I think most people do, to be honest.

For the most part the 'new system' is almost identical to my normal loops around (up and down) the aisles. except I struggle to find where they've hidden the papers, and for some reason there's no route down the aisle with the stationary/cards/Easter eggs/odds and sods etc.....So I get confused with the final two aisles.....Cos I'm going up one and down the other, instead of vice versa.

That really throws me ! 

Know exactly what you mean when they shift things around !  ....Lots of industrial language when that happens. 

I'm HOPING that they don't shift things around while we're obeying the 'one way system'.......That'll mess everyone up......Fingers crossed that they realise that !

Cheers - Phil

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Of course you know the reason that things get rearranged is to stimulate impulse buys...cause you have to walk all through the store to find what you is alookin for !

[John Cook]

Another 'Study' shows that joggers/cyclists etc need a much bigger 'Distancing'...although it is meant to advise those tormented souls not to 'slipstream' but to echelon...avoiding the leader's emissions. 
IMHO...heavy breathing and sweat will give out more potentially contagious moisture...and deep breathing will suck more in. Exercise is SO Healthy for All !!!   
At least, being a 'toxic' smoker, MY breath/smoke-plume is visible and so can be evaded with ease ! 

I always knew exercise was bad for you

[Orcs]

I always knew exercise was bad for you

I agree, the so called "fit" blokes at work have more time off sick than any one else, colds, Coughs, headaches to say nothing of sports injuries that cause them to go sick.

[John Cook]

I agree, the so called "fit" blokes at work have more time off sick than any one else, colds, Coughs, headaches to say nothing of sports injuries that cause them to go sick.

I went our for a run today and forgot something.  I'm old, fat and can't run!

[Techno]

As far as I'm concerned, two out of three ain't bad.

What were 'they' reckoning ?.....We should be doing 10,000 steps, a day ?

I must be WAY short of that.

(Do I get any bonuses for climbing over '5 bar' gates, 'cos I'm too lazy to go and get the padlock's key ?)

Cheers - Phil

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Do I get any bonuses for climbing over '5 bar' gates, 'cos I'm too lazy to go and get the padlock's key ?

Only if you don't fall off....


Sumat on Beeb2? couple of months ago reckoned that 1/2 hr intense walking is superior to 10000 steps..

[Raider4]

The "10000 steps a day" thing has no basis in science as a target, invented in 1960's Japan. BBC link.

Although obviously walking for 10K steps is probably much better for you than only walking (e.g.) 3000.

[Sunray]

A wake up call in today's Telegraph 15 hours ago  from Roziz Sebur that the South Korean Health Authority (KCDC) have reported that of  91 Covid patients in the city of Daegu who have "recovered" , some 51 have tested positive again.

This undermines what medical opinion presumed  about the virus, in that once a patient recovers from a "normal" virus, the human body has evolved the capacity to generate the appropriate antibodies to nullify new attacks.

Has it already mutated to a new strain that compromises the human body's immune system?   Already the range of virus infection has been demonstrated in that Hancock was up and about in days, whilst Boris went to intensive care, and thousands died.

What of the 40 who are unscathed ?  Do they have the antibodies ? What degree of infection did they suffer in the first outbreak?  What does this mean to the concept of herd immunity ? Are we about see a second surge as China eases up on lockdown?

[Westmarcher]

Sumat on Beeb2? couple of months ago reckoned that 1/2 hr intense walking is superior to 10000 steps..

There was also a public information advert some years back featuring former Scotland rugby player, Gavin Hastings, in which a brisk 20 minute walk was advocated.

[Techno]

A wake up call in today's Telegraph 15 hours ago  from Roziz Sebur that the South Korean Health Authority (KCDC) have reported that of  91 Covid patients in the city of Daegu who have "recovered" , some 51 have tested positive again.

That doesn't sound good.

BUT....I'm assuming (trust me, I'm not a Doctor)....That even if you have had the virus...there would be nothing to stop you picking it up again....And being dangerous, in the respect of being able to pass the wretched thing on again.

Who knows, though......Simplest form of 'life'* can 'evolve' far quicker than everything else, as it has 'generations' that only take minutes/hours (?) to come into being.

Cheers - Phil

*I'm still not sure whether a virus is supposedly classed as 'life'....Or just a self replicating strand of RNA.

[mmcv]

A wake up call in today's Telegraph 15 hours ago  from Roziz Sebur that the South Korean Health Authority (KCDC) have reported that of  91 Covid patients in the city of Daegu who have "recovered" , some 51 have tested positive again.

Is it possible the issue lies in the validity of the testing? If the tests aren't entirely accurate it could result in misreporting.

Or they caught a secondary illness but still have the genetic markers from coronovirus in their system.

Or even a weakened immune response could potentially arise from the body struggling to beat it first time round that it's not had enough time to recover the immune system to produce the required antibodies again in high enough volume?

There's still a lot of unknowns in that regard, and the tests aren't 100% accurate.

I'm not even sure if the tests would indicate a mutated strain, as it would potentially present different markers...