Covid-19

Started by barbarian, 05 March 2020, 09:46:28 PM

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flamingpig0

An awful way to treat someone for standing up for the lives of the people in his charge


https://theintercept.com/2020/04/02/navy-fires-captain-coronavirus-memo/
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toxicpixie

We never make mistakes.

Whistleblowers are always victimised :/
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d_Guy

Based only on the story linked above (which leaves some questions unanswered):
The captain appears to have gone ex-chain-of-command, apparently leaving his immediate superior (Carrier strike group commander) out of his decision loop.
The memo was distributed with such loose security that it ended up being published in a news paper.

Welfare of the crew is of major importance but so is operational security. At this point we would seem to have at least one carrier group that is combat ineffective. Nice to know.  :(

Volumes can be written about the motivation of whistleblowers.


Encumbered by Idjits, we pressed on

Steve J

300+ yard queue outside ASDA yesterday and even without the social distancing gaps, it would have been over 100 yards. ALDI was bad most of the day yet our local small Lidl was absolutely fine. Off to shop at ASDA this morning (I turned round when I saw the queue length) as it is open for the vulnerable groups, which our son is in, so can do his weekly shop for him. Wish me luck!

Steve J

With the barbers closed, how long before DIY haircuts make an appearance? There have been images on the BBC already and some of the chaps around here are looking rather unkempt on the coiffure front. I'm sure the Ladies will be fine. Luckily I found we still had some clippers so with our daughters help managed to do a reasonable short back and sides. Not quite Peaky Blinders which she wanted to do (I was tempted but would look stupid and SWMBO would not have been happy) but not bad and nice to have had a trim :).

d_Guy

Our barbers closed the day before my appointment (which was already three weeks late). I've decided to ultimately put my hair in a ponytail (I did it once when the world was young) and then put braids in my beard. If I end up liking the look,  when we get the all-clear I may shave my head and get rune tattoos.

Encumbered by Idjits, we pressed on

FierceKitty

Lee's been cutting my hair for years, so that's an easy one. But she's wearing her own in a clip, wisely not trusting me as a barber.
I don't drink coffee to wake up. I wake up to drink coffee.

d_Guy

For me cutting hair is like trying to level a table by successively trimming the legs.

An interesting chart:
Encumbered by Idjits, we pressed on

Techno

Quote from: Steve J on 03 April 2020, 05:56:22 AM
300+ yard queue outside ASDA yesterday and even without the social distancing gaps, it would have been over 100 yards. ALDI was bad most of the day yet our local small Lidl was absolutely fine. Off to shop at ASDA this morning (I turned round when I saw the queue length) as it is open for the vulnerable groups, which our son is in, so can do his weekly shop for him. Wish me luck!

Good luck, Steve !  :)

It was pretty good in Tesco' in Cardigan yesterday......(I didn't go in mega early....around my normal time I guess).....Car park was busier than 'the norm' for that time of the morning, but still oodles of space.

No problems about the number of folk in the store.....I'd guess somewhere between 20 & 30 while I was bimbling around.....(The limit is 50 in the store at one time.)
Shelves all pretty good.....Couldn't get our usual bread (Plenty of of other loaves though.).....Only noticed that they hadn't got paracetamol....Which I didn't need, anyway......Ermm......No Rich tea biccies for Von....None of our usual de-caf coffee....But I'll get some of that next week, when they should have some.

The one thing they hadn't done yet, is put arrows around the floor of the aisles, so everyone follows the same route, so you don't have people coming back down the aisle that you're going up....Those are the times it's nigh on impossible to avoid getting closer than the recommended distance .....I heard them talking about sorting the arrows 'toot sweet'....and said that that would be a really good idea....
But....They rejected my idea of having chicanes, and 5 red lights at the checkouts' waiting areas, which go out when it's time to move forward, so it was more like F1 racing. ;)

'Meat' aisle now seems to be fine, and virtually back to normal.

Quote from: Steve J on 03 April 2020, 06:01:07 AM
With the barbers closed, how long before DIY haircuts make an appearance? There have been images on the BBC already and some of the chaps around here are looking rather unkempt on the coiffure front. I'm sure the Ladies will be fine. Luckily I found we still had some clippers so with our daughters help managed to do a reasonable short back and sides. Not quite Peaky Blinders which she wanted to do (I was tempted but would look stupid and SWMBO would not have been happy) but not bad and nice to have had a trim :).

Funny you should mention that, Steve. There were a few clips from social media that the TV showed a couple of days ago.
Mostly fathers being very brave and allowing their offspring to have a go.
One looked a very good attempt......Another.. X_X
I have trimmed Von's hair...but only at the back...and only when necessary, when she can't get an appointment for longer than she's prepared to wait.....So obviously NOW I'm sure my lack of skills are likely to be called upon. X_X

I'm sort of surprised at Bill's chart to see the UK not nearer the top ! ;D ;D
I think we can assume that the chart for April will show a lot LESS loo roll being bought, as compared to last year.

Cheers - Phil (I got some bicccies for Von from the mini-supermarket in the village, on the way back...Don't do 'big' shops there....they're too expensive ! :D)

sunjester


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No major queues in Birkenhead, but the tumble weed was knee deep.

Tip for all - paving stones are normally 2'x3' or 2'x2', so you can judge your 2m separation easily


Cheers all

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Steve J

I spent an hour out of the house to do a 10 minute shop. The queue for the NHS, Vulnerable and over '70's was again a couple of 100 yeards long. They were slowly letting people in and once inside I was done in 10 minutes! Chatting to the lady on the till, she was with me in not understanding why everyone appears to still be panicking as the shelves were full, apart from the pasta which was a bit sparse. If everyone just shopped as normal we'd be OK.

Steve J

Bill, definitely plat the beard, shave the head and have runes tattoed on it! I would but SWMBO might not agree...

Duke Speedy of Leighton

I've started wearing my wife's Alice band, as I was overdue a trim anyway...

My problem is (when I was younger, I could sit on my hair) my hair goes into sausage curls.
I might need my wife's straighteners...
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toxicpixie

Quote from: d_Guy on 03 April 2020, 06:14:12 AM
Our barbers closed the day before my appointment (which was already three weeks late). I've decided to ultimately put my hair in a ponytail (I did it once when the world was young) and then put braids in my beard. If I end up liking the look,  when we get the all-clear I may shave my head and get rune tattoos.



Do it Bill! Also grab a large 2m staff to enforce social isolation and practise growling "Odin says, you shall not pass!" ;)
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flamingpig0

Quote from: d_Guy on 03 April 2020, 05:29:38 AM
Based only on the story linked above (which leaves some questions unanswered):
The captain appears to have gone ex-chain-of-command, apparently leaving his immediate superior (Carrier strike group commander) out of his decision loop.
The memo was distributed with such loose security that it ended up being published in a news paper.

Welfare of the crew is of major importance but so is operational security. At this point we would seem to have at least one carrier group that is combat ineffective. Nice to know.  :(

Volumes can be written about the motivation of whistleblowers.



I am pretty sure that the would have made his concerns evident to the strike group commander and the loose security gambit is a classic way of shooing the messenger.   
I have no reason to doubt his motivation as it would be hard to  see what he would gain from putting his career on  the line
"I like coffee exceedingly..."
 H.P. Lovecraft

"We don't want your stupid tanks!" 
Salah Askar,

My six degrees of separation includes Osama Bin Laden, Hitler, and Wendy James

Raider4

Quote from: Steve J on 03 April 2020, 06:01:07 AM
. . . I'm sure the Ladies will be fine.

Hah! My wife's roots are starting to show and she is Not Happy.

Steve J

I forgot about the roots showing issue, so some DIY colouring at home could be interesting, assuming you can get to buy the dye. With 50% arctic blonde in my hair it's not something I worry about; keeping my hair is more of an issue!

d_Guy

Quote from: flamingpig0 on 03 April 2020, 09:32:49 AM
I have no reason to doubt his motivation as it would be hard to  see what he would gain from putting his career on  the line
In this specific case I tend to agree with you. Hopefully his crew will benefit.
Quote from: toxicpixie on 03 April 2020, 09:13:35 AM
Do it Bill! Also grab a large 2m staff to enforce social isolation and practise growling "Odin says, you shall not pass!" ;)
;D
Quote from: Steve J on 03 April 2020, 08:56:19 AM
Bill, definitely plat the beard, shave the head and have runes tattoed on it! I would but SWMBO might not agree...
I will attempt to convince her that I will look exactly like Ragnar (in the series) of whom she has a keen (and possibly carnal) interest.
Quote from: Raider4 on 03 April 2020, 12:17:21 PM
Hah! My wife's roots are starting to show and she is Not Happy.
Amen to that, brother!
Encumbered by Idjits, we pressed on

Techno

Quote from: mad lemmey on 03 April 2020, 08:58:01 AM
I've started wearing my wife's Alice band, as I was overdue a trim anyway...

That's a good idea, Will....I'm sure Von's got (what I'd call) a sweatband, rather than an Alice band...I might nick that for the time being. :D

Cheers - Phil