Covid-19

[hammurabi70]

New Zealand is in lock down for the next 4 weeks and it is eerily quiet

We live near a 'busy' highway and normally there is background traffic noise that you just ignore

Not today, quiet except for the occasional vehcile



Motorways at what would have been rush hour in Auckland, our largest city

Ooh, gosh!  Don't recognise it at all.  I guess it has changed a bit since I lived there in 1989!

[pierre the shy]

Ooh, gosh!  Don't recognise it at all.  I guess it has changed a bit since I lived there in 1989!

It sure has...the left hand side pic shows Symonds St/Upper Queen St going over the big SH 1 junction while the right hand one is the main approach to the southern end of the harbour bridge with Westhaven marina in the left background.

Amazing to see them totally deserted. So far NZ seems to be very compliant with the Level 4 stay at home order.

[Sunray]

Know what you mean, Ian.

Can't stand 'silence' when I'm pushing putty around....Either listen to a talking book.....(H2G2, at the mo'.....For the umpteenth time).....A bit of rock, prog rock, or sometimes classical.

Can't really listen to the radio, down here, at the mo'.....It's 'stuck' on 5 Live...and that's just too depressing. 

Had an unexpected visitor (delivery man) this afto'......"Do you know where 'X' is ?".......Yes, half a mile thataway....(Bugger off !) ..UGH ! He touched our gate...and the latch...and the back door handle !
I mean...We don't know where he's been ! 

Out with the 'disinfectant' spray, after he'd gone. 

Cheers - Mr Paranoid.

No Phil, just being sensible. 

If you have to go the shop-  wear waterproofs/cap spayed  with a disinfectant - gloves and (tip from a dentist) a good paper dust  mask that has been sprayed on the outside.  Recommend Dettol spray if going near the face/skin.   It is effective against flu virus - might just  lessen infection odds against COVID 19 - who knows?

Spray footwear- its were a lot of the droplets fall.

When home - disinfect "outdoor shopping clothing"and leave to dry in a warm room.  A bit like NBC survival  drills!

Secondly - turn up the heat.  More logs on the fire.  Hot showers. The virus does not survive long outside a host body  if exposed to  a very warm dry environment

All these measures add a +1 to survival chances.

Keep safe and pray for a Spring/Summer that has high temperatures, dry days  and clear skies.  Global warming might just save us.

James

[Orcs]

Keep safe and pray for a Spring/Summer that has high temperatures, dry days  and clear skies.  Global warming might just save us.

James

Australia are on lockdown and the weather there was 21C today rising to 26C at the weekend, It looks unlikely that a normal British Spring/Summer will have much effect against it. 

[Norm]

The UK Government has just ordered 10,000 ventilators from Dyson, plus the 1000 they are donating for free. Apparently these should come on line some time in April - I imagine this will be the line in the sand (or at least the start of it) of keeping deaths to around 1 to 1.5% and for the country to get into a stronger position to manage critical care.

It is amazing what can be done when under a 'national emergency' environment  and minds and resources are committed to a single purpose. Well done all those involved in putting that together.

[Techno]

Recommend Dettol spray if going near the face/skin.   It is effective against flu virus - might just  lessen infection odds against COVID 19 - who knows?

Hi James....I was only thinking last night,"I wonder if 'ordinary' Dettol disinfectant would kill a virus".......for use when the 'proper' surface cleanser runs out.
(Just put some in the sprayer and top it up.) Got a huge bottle of that (left in the MIL's kitchen.)

According to Dettol, there's a 99.9% chance that it will !
We'll just have to put up with the rather overpowering smell.
Von can't STAND the smell of ordinary Dettol....Never mind.

I still wish I'd gone and got my half yearly haircut done before 'lockdown'......I'll just have to give myself a Claudia Winkleman fringe !! 

Take care, all.

Cheers - Phil.

[Lord Kermit of Birkenhead]

Detol have been know to say that it's 99.9 because they don't know all of the germs, note NOT viruses.

[Sunray]

Detol have been know to say that it's 99.9 because they don't know all of the germs, note NOT viruses.

"Germs" is a catch all term that includes bacteria, helminth  and  viruses. Virus are capsules that contain generic material.  They hi-jack cells in the body and destroy them in the process.

Dettol products have demonstrated  effective against the Coronavirus strains from the same family as the Covid 19.    

Good enough for me. 

[petercooman]

According to Dettol, there's a 99.9% chance that it will !
We'll just have to put up with the rather overpowering smell.
Von can't STAND the smell of ordinary Dettol....Never mind.

Around here you can get dettol with lavender scent, maybe try that?

seeems to be available there as well
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/261187177

[Westmarcher]

I still wish I'd gone and got my half yearly haircut done before 'lockdown'......I'll just have to give myself a Claudia Winkleman fringe !! 

I thought about your haircutting habits after I went for a panic haircut before the lockdown, Phil (my first choice barbers was shut and so I went to my second choice one but it was needing cut, anyway).  The hairdresser and I talked so long about Coronavirus that I think she forgot she was cutting my hair. It was so short that I don't think I'll need another for the next 3 months! Moral of the story - if you want a good haircut, never engage the hairdresser in conversation.   

Signed - Baldy Bane    

[Sunray]

Around here you can get dettol with lavender scent, maybe try that?

seeems to be available there as well
https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/261187177

Peter
Dettol added the lavender to attract a dandy customer like.....Techno.   If the product has Chloroxylenol as the "active hitman substance" and isopropyl alcohol - GRAB IT.
Most Reckitt Benckiser products list the bacteria and viruses they kill on the label.

stay safe

James

[Techno]

I thought about your haircutting habits after I went for a panic haircut before the lockdown, Phil (my first choice barbers was shut and so I went to my second choice one but it was needing cut, anyway).  The hairdresser and I talked so long about Coronavirus that I think she forgot she was cutting my hair. It was so short that I don't think I'll need another for the next 3 months! Moral of the story - if you want a good haircut, never engage the hairdresser in conversation.   Signed - Baldy Bane    

I'll get your address, Davy......Next time (whenever that's going to be ) I'll get Chris(tine)... she's genuinely an absolute sweetie....and I genuinely worry about her business, at the mo'...poor lass....to give me a 'doggie bag' of my hair, to send up to you.

Mine's now a sort of faded brown, with an awful lot of gray....Would this work, for you, with the application of 'super-glue ?' 

Anyway...Now back from the new 'lock-down' Tesco's in Cardigan.
Have to say, that it was the best shopping experience for a good few weeks.

Only 50 people allowed into the store at one time.........Made the experience a WHOLE lot less stressful.

Still a number of gaps on some of the shelves.....But nothing I needed to be really concerned about.

What couldn't I find ?
Frozen Sprouts......Not important, in the slightest.......Errrr.....What else ?
No paracetamol....(Heck, we're alright for those....I only looked, just to check.)
Disinfectant....Sanitisers....Nil points.

The fresh meat isle was VERY sparse....But I did get the boys (dogs) their treat for the weekend....and that was about it for 'shortages'.
They even had a decent number of packs of loo-roll....Again, didn't need that...so basically ignored that isle.

I DID find some proper packets of Twiglets.....So life is on the up.

(I know it was the right thing to do......But I didn't half feel a twerp going around the store with 'creepy' (don't leave any fingerprints on anything) latex gloves on.....But Von had left me a note commanding me to do that !...And James's post was watching out for me.....Thanks, Matey.. )

Dammit....I meant to pop into the local farmer's co-op, to check whether they'd still got face masks and big bottles of hand sanitisers....I'll pop in on Saturday.

Cheers - Phil

[mmcv]

I thought about your haircutting habits after I went for a panic haircut before the lockdown, Phil (my first choice barbers was shut and so I went to my second choice one but it was needing cut, anyway).  The hairdresser and I talked so long about Coronavirus that I think she forgot she was cutting my hair. It was so short that I don't think I'll need another for the next 3 months! Moral of the story - if you want a good haircut, never engage the hairdresser in conversation.   

Signed - Baldy Bane    

As the old joke goes (from 5th century AD at least):


Asked by the court barber how he wanted his hair cut, the king replied: "In silence".


Wise words.

[Westmarcher]

I'll get your address, Davy......Next time (whenever that's going to be ) I'll get Chris(tine)... she's genuinely an absolute sweetie....and I genuinely worry about her business, at the mo'...poor lass....to give me a 'doggie bag' of my hair, to send up to you.

Mine's now a sort of faded brown, with an awful lot of gray....Would this work, for you, with the application of 'super-glue ?' 

No need, Phil.    I've found an old mop which I've cunningly fashioned into a wig, 'Techno style.' 

As the old joke goes (from 5th century AD at least):
Asked by the court barber how he wanted his hair cut, the king replied: "In silence".
Wise words.

Didn't know that - so true! 

[Techno]

No need, Phil.    I've found an old mop which I've cunningly fashioned into a wig, 'Techno style.' 

An old mop would probably be a vast improvement on what's sitting atop my 'bonce', at this time, Davy.....(Now, where are those scissors that aren't completely blunt......I know, I'll use a new scalpel blade  ......No....Maybe not.)

Cheers - Phil.

[Westmarcher]

    

[Westmarcher]

It took more than 2 generations for Great Britain to pay off its war debt from WW2. As well as the human cost, we're going to be paying for this for a long time to come.

[Raider4]

Asked by the court barber how he wanted his hair cut, the king replied: "In silence".

Oh $DEITY please, yes please.

Of course, I'm never brave enough to say that myself

[John Cook]

Australia are on lockdown and the weather there was 21C today rising to 26C at the weekend, It looks unlikely that a normal British Spring/Summer will have much effect against it. 

The first Australian case appeared in Melbourne in January.  That is the height of the Australian summer.  Seasons don't seem relevant.

[Sunray]

The first Australian case appeared in Melbourne in January.  That is the height of the Australian summer.  Seasons don't seem relevant.

No.   This not my opinion - there is some  medical evidence. (Yat Sen study etc)
To be clear -

The heat on exposed surfaces lowers the transmission.  The virus cannot survive long on a hot dry surface once it leaves a host body. The droplets dry up.  Damp cool surfaces prolong its survival.

Hence the lower transmission risk from buses, trains, car door handles in warmer climates.  

Note - This has no bearing on person to person infection!  Say 6ft apart or you will end up 6ft under!

Dr James Wilson aka Sunray.