Pendraken Plans for 2020!

Started by Leon, 11 January 2020, 09:32:50 PM

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Westmarcher

14 January 2020, 04:32:43 PM #20 Last Edit: 14 January 2020, 04:50:59 PM by Westmarcher
Because there is no Year 0 in the Anno Domini system (1 A.D. being the year that immediately followed 1 B.C), this is why we have this issue. However, if 1 A.D. had been designated as the Year 0 A.D., we would still be in the last decade because it would now be 2019. Either way, arithmetically speaking, we still haven't entered a new decade.

Having said that, I'm all for ease and simplicity and so, if the third number of the year begins with a 2, I'm quite happy to designate 2020 as the start of the second third decade in this century. Oh, I give up!    ;D
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Leon

I think after all that I'll just put 'Welcome to a new decade!' at the start of our 2021 plans as well...!
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You realise, of course, that the great Decadist Schism, spoken of in hushed tones
in centuries to come, will be traced back to this moment....

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Nick the Lemming

It's pretty simple, in the same way that we talk about the 1700s and the 18th century, we can talk about the 20s and the 3rd decade of the century (which runs from 2021 to 2030).

Techno

Quote from: Glorfindel on 14 January 2020, 05:13:49 PM

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Orcs

Well as the Jesus was reputedly born approx. 1-2 BC we are either in 2021 or 2022. So if the decade stated at 2020 them the Dark Lord is either a year late if he was born in 2 BC or bang on time if its 1BC.

However King Herod is believed to have died around 4BC, and as the story says he had al babies under 2 put to death. This would imply the birth of Jesus to be between 4 and 6 BC. Putting us in somewhere between 2024 and 2026. This would also take into account that the "Star of Bethlehem" was actually a slow moving comet observed by Chinese astronomers in 5 BC and the wise men are supposed to have visited him sometime after the birth.

This would  make Leon incredibly late in declaring the Decade as we could be halfway through already  :D

It would be to the Dark lords advantage to claim it is actually 2026 as he could then implement his yearly price increased for 2020, 2021,2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 and 2026 next month. Not only could he increase them by 35% (5% a year) but he could also claim to have had a price freeze for the past 6 years.  :).






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Techno

So..... :-\

Am I six years older than I thought I was, or six years younger ? 8-}.....and does it mean that Von's been done out of another six years of State Pension....I think we should be told. ;)

(Anyway...I thought time was just a way of stopping everything happening all at once.)

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fsn

One of the things I love about this forum, is how one relatively trivial comment can derail the whole thread in interesting ways.

The census was 6AD, meaning that it's only we're still slogging through the last decade.

Quote from: Orcs on 14 January 2020, 10:38:12 PM
Not only could he increase them by 35% (5% a year)
:-B Err Technically, if Leon increased his prices by 5% per year, because of the 5% increase on a price already increased by 5%, after 7 years the increase would be nearer 41% :-B


Anyway, I have a question that may re-rail the thread (he said, feeling slightly guilty for derailing in the first place, and with no real hope of re-railing), with the upcoming Greeks, and the promise of TB Line ancients on the horizon, could you comment on how compatible they are?



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FierceKitty

It's by no means an open-and-shut case that He ever actually existed. We may have to start re-dating ab urbe condita, as the Romans did - except that archaeologists have solidly demonstrated the City was at least two hundred years older than the Romans realised.
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Last Hussar

More likely 6BC.

However his existence is now unrelated to our year counting.

The first year AD/CE was 1. Before that it was 1BC/BCE.

1st 10 years are 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10.

Ergo all decades start on the x1 year.

Unless you can show me a decade with 9 years in.
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Ithoriel

Quote from: Last Hussar on 15 January 2020, 08:24:40 AM
The first year AD/CE was 1. Before that it was 1BC/BCE.

Except it wasn't, in "1BC/1AD we were still counting the years Ab Urbe Condita, or the nth year of the reign of king so-and-so, or whatever.

Given that, as this thread shows, the "year of our lord" is a pretty random pick anyway, so far as I'm concerned and I seem to be far from alone in this, the 2020's will run from 2020 until 2029 ... because the 2020's being 2021 to 2030 is not just random it's bloody silly too.
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Westmarcher

Isn't it appropriate that this discussion revolves around the number, TEN?  :)
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Raider4

Quote from: Last Hussar on 15 January 2020, 08:24:40 AM
More likely 6BC.

However his existence is now unrelated to our year counting.

The first year AD/CE was 1. Before that it was 1BC/BCE.

1st 10 years are 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10.

Ergo all decades start on the x1 year.

Unless you can show me a decade with 9 years in.

A minutes has sixty seconds - 0 to 59.

An hour has sixty minutes - 0 to 59.

By the same logic, a decade has ten years in it - 0 to 9.

I'm counting 2020 as the 1st year of the 20's, I'm quite happy for others to do differently.

FierceKitty

Iff there was a year 0, you're quite right. And maybe we can start gaming the 31YW and the 101YW and the 8YW....
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fsn

Quote from: fsn on 15 January 2020, 07:49:04 AM
Anyway, I have a question that may re-rail the thread (he said, feeling slightly guilty for derailing in the first place, and with no real hope of re-railing), with the upcoming Greeks, and the promise of TB Line ancients on the horizon, could you comment on how compatible they are?
For example, the Korean War range are rather slim compared to TB Line, and would look slightly odd together (and not just because of the difference in period.) The greens for the Greeks look rather chunkier (and I mean that in a good way.) Would they mix in one unit?
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Leon

Quote from: fsn on 15 January 2020, 12:25:04 PM
For example, the Korean War range are rather slim compared to TB Line, and would look slightly odd together (and not just because of the difference in period.) The greens for the Greeks look rather chunkier (and I mean that in a good way.) Would they mix in one unit?

I'm not exactly sure to be honest.  The TB Ancients were the first ranges they did and they tend to be a bit chunkier and a bit taller I think.  The TB Middle Ages stuff matches in great with ours, but I think they'd moved to a different sculptor for those ranges. 

Unfortunately there aren't many Greeks in the TB ranges.  We'll have Republican Romans, Carthaginians, Gauls, Numidians, Iberians, Italics and then one code of Epirotes!
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Last Hussar

Quote from: Raider4 on 15 January 2020, 10:52:32 AM
A minutes has sixty seconds - 0 to 59.

An hour has sixty minutes - 0 to 59.

By the same logic, a decade has ten years in it - 0 to 9.

I'm counting 2020 as the 1st year of the 20's, I'm quite happy for others to do differently.

That logic only works if there was a year 0.
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fsn

Quote from: Leon on 15 January 2020, 03:46:01 PM
Unfortunately there aren't many Greeks in the TB ranges.  We'll have Republican Romans, Carthaginians, Gauls, Numidians, Iberians, Italics and then one code of Epirotes!

Thanks Leon.

I'm fancying the Italics and Epirotes agin the Greeks. I shall contain my excitement.
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