MicroMark Army Lists for BKC-IV!

Started by Leon, 27 June 2019, 12:02:26 AM

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sultanbev

"2. Some of the units represented at Platoon level are, according to the original Micromark lists, included at that level even when they are listed as having 2 or 3 weapons/vehicles etc. Surely these should be added together and then become a Battalion level asset rather than add a Platoon at Company level."

Yes, that is what Spearhead/Modern Spearhead does, at a similar level of play. It's not necessarily wrong. I had got the impression in my head that BKC/CWC is different from SH/MSH/RF in that it was the platoons that counted, rather than the weapons. For a real world Panzer grenadier company commander, the 2 tubes of SP 81mm mortars must have been important, so I had instinctively included them in each company. They were never massed at Bttn HQ, so didn't want to create that effect.

My thought was to be consistent, and try and retain some historical replication of the TOE, whilst representing the abilities of the company. Thus, in the 15th Panzer Division list just done, several 2.8cm sPzB41 are missing, as some companies had 1 platoon with only 1 of them, alongside 2-3 other PAKs. So overall, it's an anti-tank platoon failing or not failing at knocking out an enemy tank platoon in the game, and having or not having one real world 28mm isn't going to make that much difference in effect. And, because there aren't any more in the company, I couldn't amalgamate them across the company. However, in a situation where say 3 platoons have a net 3-4 weapons of one type, I'll write in one model for that company.

So in a roundabout way, I'm saying I'll amalgamate across a company where appropriate, but not across a battalion. Inevitably, the British Sherman/Firefly combination is going to come up. I'll be presenting a British Armoured Squadron as 3 Shermans and 1 Firefly (some squadrons did actaully operate their troops that way), and later 1944-45 as 2 of each. It's an abstraction we'll have to put up with.
As we've already got an abstracted system of hits and saves for a platoon of tanks, not an individual tank, I do not think this is unreasonable. And who is to say, that that very abstraction does include a representation of understrength platoons? Is it 3 actual vehicles, or 4, or even 5? But we know it's a platoon.

Either way, if a playing group thinks modelling a distinct platoon of 2 weapons is unreasonable, there is nothing to stop them fielding less models. For your panzergrenadiers, just buy 1x Sdkfz 251/2 for every 6 stands of infantry, or whatever.
If you like, think of it as I'm presenting the maximum information, anyone is free to use less of that information.

Mark B




cardophillipo

Thanks Mark B, great to get your responses.

Cheers

Richard P

sultanbev

Quote from: Superscribe on 28 June 2019, 01:26:50 PM
A brilliant idea and having bought a number of Mark's army lists in the past, these new lists will be just what many BKC players could use.  For me, lists for 11th/13th Pz Div and Soviet 8th/19th Mech Corps as at late June 1941 (Battle of Dubno) would be good,;

First list of your requests up,
https://www.wargamevault.com/product/281370/BKCG3-German-11th-Panzer-Division-Russia-JuneJuly-1941

This is the generic list for the division at the time, I haven't read up on details of the battle where there may have been slight differences. (A book on the battle is en route!)

Mark B

sultanbev


Superscribe

Have downloaded both. Excellent detail. Many thanks Mark


Superscribe

Brilliant Mark - have downloaded the latest 4 Russian ones.  Excellent detail - just what I was hoping for. 

Can I add some more to the list please for June 1941: German - 14 PD, 16 PD, 57 ID, 75 ID; Soviet - Divs in 9 MC and 228 RD.  All at Dubno. 

Best regards

Chris

sultanbev

Ah, the 228th will be interesting, you get to play with a full regiment of 203mm B31 howitzers  :)

Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your point of view, I've got more details on the 12th and 34th TDs, so they will be getting updated at some point when I've done 19th Mech Corps lists.

Mark B

sultanbev

Some more Russian lists are now available, 19th Mechanised Corps and corps Motorcycle Regiment, along with British lists for Arnhem commenced:

https://www.wargamevault.com/browse/pub/3426/MicroMark-Army-Lists/subcategory/5776_33007/BLITZKRIEG-COMMANDER-IV-ARMY-LISTS
BKCR8: Russian 40th Tank Division, 19th Mechanised Corps, Russia, June 1941
BKCR9: Russian 43rd Tank Division, 19th Mechanised Corps, Russia, June 1941
BKCR10: Russian 213th Mechanised Division, 19th Mechanised Corps, Russia, June 1941
BKCR11: Russian Corps Motorcycle Regiment, Mechanised Corps, June 1941
BKCB21: British 1st Airborne Division, NW Europe, September 1944
BKCB22: British 30th Corps Support Units, 2nd Household Cavalry Regiment, Sept 1944


Mark B

sultanbev

Next lists are up:
BKCG13: German 14th Panzer Division, Russia, June-July 1941
BKCB23: British Grenadier Guards Battlegroup, 5th Guards Armoured Brigade, Guards Armoured Division, NW Europe, September 1944
BKCB24: British Irish Guards Battlegroup, 5th Guards Armoured Brigade, Guards Armoured Division, NW Europe, September 1944

Mark B

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Howdy,

Any chance of a 101st US Airborne list for D-Day and Market Garden?

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sultanbev

Added to my list of lists to do.
Just to reiterate, I posted elsewhere,

Due to my father being ill most of the year then passing away in September, I've got completely behind with all my work. I was completey oblivious to how much time and energy the situation was taking out of me, until after the funeral.
Consequently it is highly unlikely that I'll be able to add any new BKC-IV lists until the very end of the year, if not into January 2020. I am writing lists again at least, but there was a prior contract I have to finish before going full on into BKC lists. Sorry about that, real life 'n all that.

Full service will be resumed as soon as possible,

Mark

Itinerant Hobbyist

I know this was a long time ago, but my father passed in November of 2019, so I can relate.

How are you doing?

sultanbev

08 September 2020, 05:55:47 PM #33 Last Edit: 08 September 2020, 07:50:49 PM by sultanbev
Back in the BKC writing mode, let's pretend the last 6 months didn't happen as far as writing is concerned and it's still March 2020....

101st Airborne for Normandy

https://www.wargamevault.com/product/327653/BKCA50-American-101st-Airborne-Division-Normandy-June-1944

Includes known Corps attachments for the ground fighting during June 1944, an alternative layout for an artillery battalion with no guns, and the enigmatic "Provisional Airborne Naval Shore Fire Control Parties"....

Quote from: Itinerant Hobbyist on 29 August 2020, 02:01:23 AM
I know this was a long time ago, but my father passed in November of 2019, so I can relate.

How are you doing?

Am good thanks, my dad's end of life care was excellent, and he wasn't alone when he passed, and he just missed his 82nd birthday, so had had a good innings.
Mark

paulr

Good to see your making progress again  :-bd

Quote from: sultanbev on 08 September 2020, 05:55:47 PM
... let's pretend the last 6 months didn't happen ...

There are a lot that would love to do that, in fact can we skip all of 2020 :-\
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or even just a major part of today, as now we have NO working toilets in the house.
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Quote from: paulr on 08 September 2020, 07:30:25 PM
Good to see your making progress again  :-bd

There are a lot that would love to do that, in fact can we skip all of 2020 :-

NO!!!!! I've painted four armies and two fleets!
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Quote from: mad lemmey on 08 September 2020, 08:15:34 PM
or even just a major part of today, as now we have NO working toilets in the house.
X_X :-&
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Quote from: mad lemmey on 08 September 2020, 08:15:34 PM
or even just a major part of today, as now we have NO working toilets in the house.

Oh, what fun !  X_X

Hope it's/something's sorted asap, Will.

Cheers - Phil.

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