RECCE

[Jimbo94]

In My Game last night in 7 turns the 222 and the BA10 managed to improve the HQ CV buy +1 once each
Slightly less than one in 6 success
Not worth the hassle of learning the extra rules and in game terms not worth the points

[Big Insect]

Interesting observation Jimbo

I must admit that wasn't our experience in our play-tests, but maybe we are used to using our Recce differently as we have played this ruling or variants of it for so long (as house rules) that we know the best way to get the best out of our recce. E.G. I tend to embed them within an offensive formation and use them to spot enemy in the open where possible.

Going back to Dr Dave's various points ... I can see all your arguments - there are many instances of Recce sending back runners, using flags, passing messages via other friendly units etc. to communicate with their command infrastructures. Radios got more common and more efficient as the war progresses yes, but so did interception of radio messages.

I come back to a fundamental principle, which is that it should be hard for a Recce unit to spot low-profile targets in a BUA - that's my stand-point.
We could add a modifier that adds a + if the unit is shooting or has shot the previous move, or has moved at all, but again I am trying to avoid inter-turn book keeping where possible.

Cheers
Mark

[Cross698]

If it has fired it becomes visible to all anyway, so why not to RECCE, so it should be a factor - enemy is visible +1?

[Dr Dave]

I think have to stand by the point that recce shouldn't need to see the enemy. "The area ahead of us is clear" type information is very useful - but I can only speak from the standpoint of conversations I have had with serving officers who have seen combat. BUT, I can see that people thought v2 was too simplistic and easy to get the +1. That recce need a roll to spot what others can see automatically cannot make sense. 

I'd be inclined to use v2 with:
Good recce - normal, as v2
Average recce - 1 or 2 always fails
Poor recce - 1-3 always fails.