Crimean range.

[ossy]

Any news about the Crimean range that was to get some additions this year ?

[Leon]

Any news about the Crimean range that was to get some additions this year ?

It'll be a full range revamp rather than additions, but it's been pushed back slightly while we re-do the Samurai range first.  We should be looking at the first batch of sculpts around August/September time I'd think.

[FierceKitty]

Japanese - please, please, pretty please with sugar on top, can we have a monk with a great big kanabo and one firing a musket? And commander figures for Honda Tadakatsu and Toyotomi Hideyoshi? And a real gun?

[FierceKitty]

And some more useful illustrations to hurry my promotion to shogun, and to inspire Japanese-fanciers.

[Leon]

Japanese - please, please, pretty please with sugar on top, can we have a monk with a great big kanabo and one firing a musket? And commander figures for Honda Tadakatsu and Toyotomi Hideyoshi? And a real gun?

I'll be putting up a sculpting list in the next few days, so any requests can be made there and we'll try to fit them in.

[Ithoriel]

I'd sooner have Takeda Shingen and Uesugi Kenshin than Honda and Toyotomi, for some action in and around Kawanakajima.

Of course, truth be told I'd sooner have Ii Naomasa or Ii Naotaka than any of those but that's getting pretty niche

[FierceKitty]

I'd sooner have Takeda Shingen and Uesugi Kenshin than Honda and Toyotomi, for some action in and around Kawanakajima.

Of course, truth be told I'd sooner have Ii Naomasa or Ii Naotaka than any of those but that's getting pretty niche

Not hostile to these (one of my forces is Takeda), but the two I've mentioned have spectacular helmets that are beyond my power to model.

[fsn]

Now that's what I call a thread hijack!

Simple query about the Crimea (which IIRC was the middle of the C19 in a bit of Russia) is filled with chat about Japanese monks.

[Shedman]

With regards to the Crimean War range I can't make up my mind whether 'd like to see the troops in campaign dress or parade uniform

[Chad]

I don't think parade uniforms lasted that long in the Crimea

[FierceKitty]

Now that's what I call a thread hijack!

Simple query about the Crimea (which IIRC was the middle of the C19 in a bit of Russia) is filled with chat about Japanese monks.

So sorry - (polite bow) - thread go to Kamakura now.

[fsn]

I have no interest in the Crimean War, per se, but it was, IIRC the first war in which telegraph, railways, steamships and photography were a feature.* I am, however fascinated by old photographs ... so here are a few to get your Crimean juices flowing - mostly by Roger Fenton.







French Zouaves ... I'm struck by how the French influenced US military styles a decade later.

"Well, I'm sure this is where we parked the ship."



*I am prepared to be wrong on that, but sorry ACW, the Crimea beat you to it by a decade.

[fsn]

So sorry - (polite bow) - thread go to Kamakura now.

Most gracious. Appreciation.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Influenced US military style, yup, but by 1875 US infantry were issued Puklehaubs..   

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

And yes please to Uesugi Kenshin

[FierceKitty]

Mmmm. Like the piccies.

Curious about why everyone's calling for Kenshin. He's always shewn as a monk, and so one of the easiest to produce.

[Shedman]

I don't think parade uniforms lasted that long in the Crimea

Exactly

When I was looking for uniforms for Algeria 1837 there was a marked difference in uniforms between the paintings of battles and the sketches of troops

Gibb's The Thin Red Line depicts the 93rd (Sutherland Highlanders) Regiment in immaculate uniforms but I can't imagine for a minute that they all looked like that at Balaclava

However in the world of wargaming it's more common to see figures in parade uniform rather the outfits the real troops fought in.

Ideally the range would have summer and winter dress but for non-mainstream range that a lot of investment

[Westmarcher]

I have no interest in the Crimean War, per se, but it was, IIRC the first war in which telegraph, railways, steamships and photography were a feature.* I am, however fascinated by old photographs ... so here are a few to get your Crimean juices flowing - mostly by Roger Fenton.

*I am prepared to be wrong on that, but sorry ACW, the Crimea beat you to it by a decade.

Railways? I've got a book on the Crimean War somewhere but can't be bothered digging it out. I know there was one 'railway' track built from the port of Balaklava but thought that was pulled by horses. Turns out (after searching on Wikipedia), the wagons were actually pulled by a stationary engine and only after the siege of Sevastopol ended, did they introduce some small locomotives which were too weak to pull anything but light loads up the gradient from the port. Were there any other railway lines in the Crimea? By the way, trains were also used to transport French troops in the 1859 Risorgimento campaign in Northern Italy (2 years before the ACW) and French martial prowess in that campaign and the Crimea helped promote the subsequent popularity of the Zouave uniform in the U.S. Thinking also that the use of photography in a war is a first for the Crimea(?)(though not the first time bodies were photographed - that was Gardiner at Antietam, who came from my childhood home town of Paisley). Plus, would the use of breach-loading artillery and/or rifled artillery also be a first for the Crimea? 

[fsn]

I did say "a feature". 

I was also thinking about the use of trains on the home front to get men and materiel to the Crimea, as a strategic resource.

http://siege-of-sebastopol.blogspot.com/2014/07/1854-railways-go-to-war.html

[Westmarcher]

I was also thinking about the use of trains on the home front to get men and materiel to the Crimea, as a strategic resource.

Good shout.  .... and interesting link. Liked the proposal to send the entire British cavalry force (the 'Heavy' and 'Light' Brigades, totalling around 2,000 horses) all the way across France using the newly opened PLM (Paris à Lyon et à la Méditerranée) railway. but which was cancelled at the last minute due to protests from communes in the South of France (who, with memories stretching back 40 years), did not want to see British troops marching through their villages.

Makes me wonder if "Don't mention the war" was a 'catchphrase' for our ancestors back then, also.