As the House is pleased to direct me... Another ECW project

[pierre the shy]

Your ECW stuff looks very good mmcv.

Basing will come down to personal preferences and what rules you settle on for playing your ECW period games.

FWIW here's a couple of pics of how I have based up my Scots ECW cavalry for "For King @ Parliament" rules:

"Swedish" style formations are in one rank of 3 40x40mm saboted bases with Command in the middle (can easily change the arrangement of the sabots as required):


"Dutch" style pistollers in deeper formation - (a small unit in FK@P terms) - 40 x 40mm bases in two ranks, command in front:


I went for a slightly disordered look with each base having a different vee or echeloned formation.

I hope that helps.

Please keep posting about your ECW project, always interesting to see how others do things.

Cheers
Peter
 

[Westmarcher]

Ultimately, you should just do what pleases you most. Personally, my horse are based 3 to a 25mm x 25mm base in a slightly randomly staggered way (these are Pendraken SYW cavalry, btw). Plus, I'm also thinking of the formations in Streeter's depiction of Naseby (don't know if he was there but he was certainly alive during the ECW)(see link).
https://www.rct.uk/collection/750070/plan-of-battle-of-naseby-1645

So, with these two factors in mind, 3 horse on a 40mm x 40mm(?) base look a tad 'lost' to me.

[Womble67]

You've done a really good job with them

Take care

Andy

[mmcv]

Your ECW stuff looks very good mmcv.

Thanks!

Basing will come down to personal preferences and what rules you settle on for playing your ECW period games.

Yeah, I want to keep it fairly flexible as there's a number of good rule sets out there for the period, but don't want to spend half the game arranging bases so 3 bases on a sabot/movement tray is probably a good balance.

FWIW here's a couple of pics of how I have based up my Scots ECW cavalry for "For King @ Parliament" rules

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I hope that helps.

It is helpful thanks, I think 4 on a base is probably going to be the best density, maybe in a mix of staggered, well formed and the v.

Please keep posting about your ECW project, always interesting to see how others do things.

I will! It's quite useful getting the feedback and seeing what others are doing rather than just sitting staring at rows of mdf and blu tac myself! I enjoy being able to engage in aspects of the hobby through the forum too when not necessarily at the painting table.

[mmcv]

Ultimately, you should just do what pleases you most. Personally, my horse are based 3 to a 25mm x 25mm base in a slightly randomly staggered way (these are Pendraken SYW cavalry, btw). Plus, I'm also thinking of the formations in Streeter's depiction of Naseby (don't know if he was there but he was certainly alive during the ECW)(see link).
https://www.rct.uk/collection/750070/plan-of-battle-of-naseby-1645

So, with these two factors in mind, 3 horse on a 40mm x 40mm(?) base look a tad 'lost' to me.

I do like density, one of the reasons I favour 10mm is for the density/detail balance. Though density doesn't always work for my bank balance!

I think you're right on the 3 being too sparse. I've poured over that picture myself many times, though I've not been sure whether it's accurate or just a representative style. It was that picture that inspired my original plan to do the two sets of six on 40*40s with a 20*40 for command. I'm half drawn to try it again after all! Most rule sets don't seem to have too much issue with a slight discrepancy in horse/foot base widths and could easily add in a sabot or extra empty base to pad out if needed.

[mmcv]

You've done a really good job with them

Take care

Andy

Thanks Andy 

[mmcv]

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[paulr]

Where do you put your officer in the formation? Front and centre seems like the best place but difficult in a 4 man base. I know in many ancients they were in the right of the line but not sure if it's the same in this period.

I put all my command figures (Officer, Coronet, Trumpeter) second from the right which spreads them through the unit, the base with the coronet in the center of the unit. I tend to think of the three bases per unit as troops (or pairs of troops) per regiment.

It all comes down to a balance of what looks 'right' to you, how many figures you can afford and how much time you have to paint...

[mmcv]

I put all my command figures (Officer, Coronet, Trumpeter) second from the right which spreads them through the unit, the base with the coronet in the center of the unit. I tend to think of the three bases per unit as troops (or pairs of troops) per regiment.

It all comes down to a balance of what looks 'right' to you, how many figures you can afford and how much time you have to paint...

I see what you mean, went back and looked at some of your earlier posts, that's a good way to think of it.

I'd love to be able to do large numbers of models per unit, sadly time and finances are not on my side at the moment and likely won't be for a while to come, so finding that balance that satisfies the look, cost and time investment is key!

[Techno]

Those are looking damn fine !!

Cheers - Phil

[mmcv]

Extending flag poles is a nightmare 

Especially when you can't find your normal superglue and try and use a different one that instantly binds everything including your skin. Goodbye handpainted flag, hello torn flag!

[mmcv]

Managed to salvage one of the flags, the other has been patched and will have to see if it's okay in the light of day. Lost a flagpole in the process and had to drill for a new one. With that said, the rest of the flags went easily enough (once I found the superglue) and got the magnet paper on the bases, so that's three regiments of NMA foot done and dusted!

[paulr]

Glad it came right once you found the glue you needed, it can be pretty fiddly but well worth it for the look

[mmcv]

Decided I want going to get any better light any time soon so took some poor light some pics of what I have so far.

So first up I present you with the Prankmaster Gereral^* of the New Model Army himself, Olly "Old Ironsides" Cromwell:







_{*He's been known to moonlight as Lt. General of the Horse as well.}

[mmcv]

Next up Sgt. Major General Phillip "Skipper" Skippon's Regiment of Foot:

[mmcv]

Colonel John "Nose" Pickering's Regiment of Foot:

[mmcv]

And finally, Sir Hardress "Hard Ass" Waller's Regiment of Foot:







You may note the repaired flag but I'm sure they had to patch up flags from time to time so decided to leave it for the moment.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Great work.

[mmcv]

I also have a unit of Horse based and just awaiting a flag, and another unit of Horse awaiting a cornet and trumpeter as Olly stole them "for a laugh". What a guy...

Have a batch of Royalists under the brush, Horse currently but I need to switch to infantry soon. Only so many bridles a man can paint before needing some good solid foot under the brush!

[paulr]