Eowyn Favorite LotR Character

[Terry37]

Techno, It is liquid green stuff and I think your advice is he result I would end up with. I can usually file in pattern, but probably not this time, so I will be going the painted route. Thanks for the advice!

Terry

[Techno]

Ah...

Liquid G/S ?.....Can't give you any hints/advice with that, Terry...As I've never used/tried it.

If it's like the two part epoxy.......I'll take a WILD guess and say 'scratching' it will give the ragged edges I mentioned before.

Might be worthy mixing the tiniest bit on a piece of card/plasticard.....Letting it set....And then 'have a scratch' to see what happens.

Just a thought, Matey.

Cheers - Phil

[Terry37]

Phil,

It's put out by Citadel, and come sin a bottle like their paint. It thins with water,. and so I find it easy to use and can control the consistency by the amount of water I add. No mixing of two parts involved. It comes in a thick pastey form and you can usually brush it on, but I take a little on a pallet and then get a brush or two of water depending on the task at hand. It is fairly soft after drying and previous experience tells me it might crack if I try to etch it.

https://www.miniaturemarket.com/gw-66-12.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o2&scid=scplpGW-66-12&sc_intid=GW-66-12&gclid=Cj0KCQiAxNnfBRDwARIsAJlH29AKRcM3CstnUoQJFAwypuTPHJTlg5vZWNi_n_NskscqQUMTioHUbB0aAgXQEALw_wcB

Thanks Again!!!!

Terry

[Techno]

No probs, Terry !

Having read the review from the link you provided, I think your idea of painting, rather than etching, is probably the best course of action.

Looking forward to seeing the results !!

Cheers - Phil

[Terry37]

Well Phil, Even after deciding to just paint in the pattern on the bard yesterday I bit the bullet and filed in he pattern! Surprisingly it came out OK, I will probably also have to add some painting to make it look right, but it is etched! The real bear yesterday was adding the rib across the top of her helmet - would have been so much easier had I done it before I removed it from the original figure because it is really tiny!. You can see her helmet here.

https://www.cosplayisland.co.uk/costume/view/16390

I just need to do a few bits today and they are ready to prime. I'll share a new photo afterwards.

Terry

[Techno]

That's good that it came out nicely, Terry. 

Sounds like it's a slightly 'harder' putty, than the two part epoxy green stuff.

Cheers - Phil

[toxicpixie]

Cracking project Terry - you put so much work into your HotT stuff, it's amazingly well done

[Leman]

I seem to recall she was very much an Antipodean lady of Rohan. Presumably that part of Middle Earth is just south of Hobart.

[Terry37]

Hmmm, just had a monkey wrench thrown in on this one. To be sure I was going to be playing her properly in the HOTT rules and her part in the story, I asked some of my HOTT gaming friends if I was going in the right direction. Good friend Paul came back advising she is neither a Hero nor a Paladin. She is actually a troop type referred to in HOTT as a Sneaker. Think of Frodo and Sam, or of an assassin, or one who has special abilities to kill a leader.  And the more I think about it, he's right!

Now the down side to that is, that being the case, her base is now reduced from a 40 x 30 to a 40 x 20 , so there's no room to put Theoden on the base with her!!!! I could still do it as HOTT does allow for deeper base, but I really prefer to not do that, and only have done so a very, very few times to fit a tank model I really need in the army. So, it seems all the work on poor Theoden is for naught. I'll still paint him up and base him on a separate base maybe, don't know yet as I just saw Paul's note a few minutes ago.

Bottom line, Paul is absolutely right!

More to follow,

Terry

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Keep Theoden as a marker for when someone offs your general!
In that case, what do Merry and Pippin count as, behemoths?

[Terry37]

Hmmm, seems my inquiry from my freinds has brought much discussion and more has come my way since I postd about the Sneaker possibility. Seems that he Sneaker role doe snot really fit Eowyn for several reasons.

1. Sneakers are not mounted, and she was riding as a knight.

2. Sneakers cannot kill aerials, and the Witch King would be an aerial in most cases of that scenario.

3. I see a Sneaker as one who sets out to destroy an enemy leader, and Eowyn did not do that. She simply we to save her father,

So, I think I am back to the Hero as her element.

Lemmy, I like your idea if I were to go another route than as a Hero of using Theoden as a fallen General. I do have an element like that planned for use in DBN where there is a rule about generals in combat.

I had to chuckle at merry and Pippin as a Behemoth, but they might very well be, at least Merry.......     But except for my fellowship army I do not have them as part of my Rohan army, which is what the new elements are for.  had I made Eowyn as a mounted element I would have had Merry riding with her. Although I probably should put Merry in somehow.

Terry

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

He stabs the Witchking on foot, maybe he's the sneaker?

[Ithoriel]

If I were doing a HotT Rohan army I'd have

Theoden as a Knight General
Eomer and Eowyn as Heroes.
A core of Knights
Perhaps a couple of Riders

Optionally

Gandalf as a God - very powerful, constantly having to leave to deal with some other problem!
Merry as Sneaker

[toxicpixie]

Bugger it, Terry - run her as what you think! There's nothing to stop Paladin's being sneaky. Look at Batman

[Terry37]

OK, here's where I'm at. Everything is back as originally planned. Paul's recommendation as a Sneaker only made sense from the stand point that she killed Angmar. But further discussion and thinking on my part realized there is one critical difference between a Sneaker and any other troop type - and that is, a Sneaker's sole mission is to take out an enemy commander - so think of Sam and Frodo. In combat with other troop types, even if the Sneaker wins the losing enemy is unaffected, except for save a Hero or maybe a A Magician - don't have my rules handy. But that's not important. In Ewoyn's case her sole mission was as a warrior to fight any enemy, and she just happens to be confronted by Angmar when he was attacking her father. Further, if you take the position presented by Paul, then anyone who kills a general must be a Sneaker, which is not the case.

I would not make Merry a Sneaker for the same reason, he was a warrior and again just happened to be in the right place at the right time to stick Agmar. But I'm not sure how to play him as I'd really like to add him to my Rohan army, using one of Pendraken's 10 MM Dark Age figures for him.

Re Gandalf, although he is a very powerful wizard, I see him as more of a Magician than a god. I do see Sauron as a god, but of course a very evil one.

My army is basically set up to play two ways - the army at Helms Deep with Knights, Eomer as a  Hero, Theoden as a Knight General, an element of dismounted archers (Shooters ), an element of dismounted Knights (Blades), Up to two Ents as Behemoths, up to two beats - Hourn, and two elements of hastily armed civilians - Hordes.

Then for other battles, based more on Pelennor Field, I'll drop the Horde elements and Ent(s) and add Ewoyn as a second Hero and a Rider element of horse archers. 

Gentlemen, I thank you very much for your thoughts here and ALWAYS welcome such input. I never  take it negative, and find that I often miss things, so keep that kind of input coming!

Terry

[FierceKitty]

OK, here's where I'm at. Everything is back as originally planned. Paul's recommendation as a Sneaker only made sense from the stand point that she killed Angmar. But further discussion and thinking on my part realized there is one critical difference between a Sneaker and any other troop type - and that is, a Sneaker's sole mission is to take out an enemy commander - so think of Sam and Frodo. In combat with other troop types, even if the Sneaker wins the losing enemy is unaffected, except for save a Hero or maybe a A Magician - don't have my rules handy. But that's not important. In Ewoyn's case her sole mission was as a warrior to fight any enemy, and she just happens to be confronted by Angmar when he was attacking her father. Further, if you take the position presented by Paul, then anyone who kills a general must be a Sneaker, which is not the case.

I would not make Merry a Sneaker for the same reason, he was a warrior and again just happened to be in the right place at the right time to stick Agmar. But I'm not sure how to play him as I'd really like to add him to my Rohan army, using one of Pendraken's 10 MM Dark Age figures for him.

Re Gandalf, although he is a very powerful wizard, I see him as more of a Magician than a god. I do see Sauron as a god, but of course a very evil one.

My army is basically set up to play two ways - the army at Helms Deep with Knights, Eomer as a  Hero, Theoden as a Knight General, an element of dismounted archers (Shooters ), an element of dismounted Knights (Blades), Up to two Ents as Behemoths, up to two beats - Hourn, and two elements of hastily armed civilians - Hordes.

Then for other battles, based more on Pelennor Field, I'll drop the Horde elements and Ent(s) and add Ewoyn as a second Hero and a Rider element of horse archers.  

Gentlemen, I thank you very much for your thoughts here and ALWAYS welcome such input. I never  take it negative, and find that I often miss things, so keep that kind of input coming!

Terry

Offhand, I can't think of any deity who doesn't qualify as evil at some time at least. Even Athene and Apollo blot their copybooks at times.

[Terry37]

The basic base coats are done on Eowyn and partially on Theoden. If we have some sunlight tomorrow I'll take a few pics and post them.

Terry

[Terry37]

Nothing but rain and overcast here until Sunday. It's so bad they cancelled the cowboy action shooting match this coming Saturday! I'll get some pictures posted as soon as I can get enough light.

Terry

[paulr]

 

More time to make progress before you take the pictures

[Terry37]

Ah! Finally some sunshine and so here are some pictures. Please keep in mind these are only the very basic base coats and are a long way from being finished and ready to base. But they will let you see the figures better than the previous pictures. I took a front and back of Eowyn as I am very pleased with how her beautiful blond hair came out. I still need to add the gold panels to her tassest and the cuirass seems to have had some very faded reddish portions which I need to try and add. I also need to do all of the work on Theoden's armor






Here's her he;met which is really hard to see due to it's small size and my camera,. You can also see some of her shattered shield as well.



Funny thing that this makes me think every time I see it that in the movie and this scene - when Angmar throws Theoden and his horse when they come to rest you can see Theoden pinned under the horse with is feet sticking out under the horses underside. But in all the scenes where Eowyn is fighting Angmar you only see the horse - no Theoden and no feet! Me thinks Theoden was not around during the filming of those scenes!!!!

More to follow,

Terry