Storage issues

[steve_holmes_11]

Pizza box request for ideas...

I'm one of the advocates of Pizza boxes for army storage.
It's working well for me form a storage perspective.
However I am starting to face up to the transportation problems.

I didn't plan or implement any magnetic basing solution.
The MDF bases skate about on the cardboard bottom of the box and will inevitably rattle about like pinballs if transported in the back of the car.

I'm looking for a solution that relies on "temporary stickiness" - think like Post-it notes - but I've not found anything yet.
I'm going to cut a cardboard "Inner" to fit inside the box and reinforce the base (Figures weight more than Pizzas).
I hope to cover it with something tacky that will hold the bases when placed on, but allows them to peel off ready for gaming.

Do the good folks of the forum have any ideas?

[Nick the Lemming]

Double sided sticky tape?

[mmcv]

Could try Glu dots? Like blu tack but maybe a bit stronger?

[Westmarcher]

Pizza box request for ideas...

I'm one of the advocates of Pizza boxes for army storage.
It's working well for me form a storage perspective.
However I am starting to face up to the transportation problems.

I didn't plan or implement any magnetic basing solution.
The MDF bases skate about on the cardboard bottom of the box and will inevitably rattle about like pinballs if transported in the back of the car.

What is stopping you implementing a magnet basing solution? All of my bases have magnetic bases cut from magnetic sheet available from Magnetic Displays' Lightweight Range. It is adhesive backed so it's simple to cut to your preferred size, peel back the paper and stick it onto the underside of the base. For storage, I've used two methods. I used to have cardboard boxes which I lined with steel paper (again, as far as I know, still available from Magnetic Displays) but now I use tin boxes (the type you get when you buy chocolate biscuits or shortbread in the supermarket). The tin boxes are obviously sturdier than cardboard boxes - only (slight) 'drawback' is that I have boxes of various shapes and sizes because the tins come from various biscuit and shortbread manufacturers!   

[steve_holmes_11]

What is stopping you implementing a magnet basing solution? All of my bases have magnetic bases cut from magnetic sheet available from Magnetic Displays' Lightweight Range. It is adhesive backed so it's simple to cut to your preferred size, peel back the paper and stick it onto the underside of the base. For storage, I've used two methods. I used to have cardboard boxes which I lined with steel paper (again, as far as I know, still available from Magnetic Displays) but now I use tin boxes (the type you get when you buy chocolate biscuits or shortbread in the supermarket). The tin boxes are obviously sturdier than cardboard boxes - only (slight) 'drawback' is that I have boxes of various shapes and sizes because the tins come from various biscuit and shortbread manufacturers!   

I found getting a good match of the magnets to the base more and more difficult as my eyesight required correction.

Another reason, through not a particularly good one, is that I found the magnetic stuff quite slippery, which changed almost any wargame hill into the Cresta Run.
Of course naked MDF is also very slippery, so that problem requires a different solution.

[Ithoriel]

A friend found a solution ... of sorts ... to the problem of magnetic base slippage.

His hills were not flocked but coated with iron filings and spray painted!

Units that spent too long defending a slope could become difficult to remove

[Westmarcher]

I found getting a good match of the magnets to the base more and more difficult as my eyesight required correction.

Another reason, through not a particularly good one, is that I found the magnetic stuff quite slippery, which changed almost any wargame hill into the Cresta Run.
Of course naked MDF is also very slippery, so that problem requires a different solution.

Don't fully understand the matching issue, Steve (I understand you are long sighted but, then again, you also collect/play with 10mm figs). You don't really need the magnet to match the base exactly. For example, most of my bases are 25mm x 25mm square and I cut 20mm x 20mm squares from the 0.55mm thick self adhesive magnetic sheets (which are 40mm wide x 200mm long) and stick them on the bottom of the base. This works equally well with my 10mm (up to 8 ) and 15mm (up to 4) figures on the 25mm square base.

Yes, there can be a problem on certain slopes with bases that have smooth undersides. Fortunately it doesn't happen too often in most games (unless you are doing a re-fight of The Battle of the Pyrenees). My solution was to cut a few bases or sabots from steel paper (I've only cut enough for one and a half units - about 4 sabots - that's how often I need them). I then stuck some thin self adhesive pads (you know, the type you get in the Pound Shop, etc. to stick to the underside of ornaments so that the base doesn't scratch your furniture) - on one side of the steel paper base. My magnetised bases stick to the steel paper base/sabot and the thin felt pad on the underside of the steel base/sabot grips the hill. Voila! No sliding.  

(Unfortunately, I can't post photos on this forum but if you want some pics sent to you, drop me a personal message)  

[Noktu]

Hey,

I wanted to share my storage solution here. I found some nice trays from the H&M store.

https://www2.hm.com/en_gb/productpage.0464712005.html

Size: 5x18x33 cm


By adding floor protectors to the corners, I made them stackable and not moving on top of each other. I find them great for this scale.

1 by Atte Von Kraut, on Flickr

2 by Atte Von Kraut, on Flickr

3 by Atte Von Kraut, on Flickr

4 by Atte Von Kraut, on Flickr

[mmcv]

They look good and sturdy!

I use these things https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00TH5A37E/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_ehmmCb7AECW5G which I find are a good height and size. Clear plastic is easy to see what's in it too without pulling it all out. Though I do like the dark wood trays for the presentation value.

[fsn]

I'm a Really Useful Box user. Lots of different sizes.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Really-Useful-Box-Litre-Transparent/dp/B0771HDM11/ref=sr_1_6?s=officeproduct&ie=UTF8&qid=1546702234&sr=1-6&keywords=really+useful+10l

[Ithoriel]

I'm trying to standardize on 9L Really Useful Boxes for figures but have some bigger ones for boardgames that I have several add-ons for (I'm looking at you Firefly and Merchants and Marauders   )

https://www.ryman.co.uk/really-useful-storage-box-9-litre

[Leman]

I am also a 4L and 9L RUB man.

[Raider4]

Hey,

I wanted to share my storage solution here. I found some nice trays from the H&M store.

https://www2.hm.com/en_gb/productpage.0464712005.html

Size: 5x18x33 cm


By adding floor protectors to the corners, I made them stackable and not moving on top of each other. I find them great for this scale.

Ooooh, I like those. Are they available in the physical store, or is it online only?

Cheers, M.
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[Noktu]

Ooooh, I like those. Are they available in the physical store, or is it online only?

Cheers, M.
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Here in Finland H&M Stores mainly sell clothes, so I had to order them online. But their Mailing service is super fast, the order showed up in the nearby post just in 2 days.

[steve_holmes_11]

Don't fully understand the matching issue, Steve (I understand you are long sighted but, then again, you also collect/play with 10mm figs). You don't really need the magnet to match the base exactly. For example, most of my bases are 25mm x 25mm square and I cut 20mm x 20mm squares from the 0.55mm thick self adhesive magnetic sheets (which are 40mm wide x 200mm long) and stick them on the bottom of the base. This works equally well with my 10mm (up to 8 ) and 15mm (up to 4) figures on the 25mm square base.

Yes, there can be a problem on certain slopes with bases that have smooth undersides. Fortunately it doesn't happen too often in most games (unless you are doing a re-fight of The Battle of the Pyrenees). My solution was to cut a few bases or sabots from steel paper (I've only cut enough for one and a half units - about 4 sabots - that's how often I need them). I then stuck some thin self adhesive pads (you know, the type you get in the Pound Shop, etc. to stick to the underside of ornaments so that the base doesn't scratch your furniture) - on one side of the steel paper base. My magnetised bases stick to the steel paper base/sabot and the thin felt pad on the underside of the steel base/sabot grips the hill. Voila! No sliding.  

(Unfortunately, I can't post photos on this forum but if you want some pics sent to you, drop me a personal message)  

All clearly stated stuff.

I'm on the lookout for a supplier of precision cut adhesive magnetic stuff - failing that I'll try cutting slightly undersize pieces.

Meanwhile I've found a grid of small blu-tack balls gives a good grip on the underlying surface.
It's main drawback is the time to detach an army from its boz.

[jimduncanuk]

I am also a 4L and 9L RUB man.

I am also a RUB man.

I have about 80 of the 4L/9L variety as well as a few larger ones 18L/21L.

I think I need to buy a few more.

[rct75001]

All clearly stated stuff.

I'm on the lookout for a supplier of precision cut adhesive magnetic stuff - failing that I'll try cutting slightly undersize pieces.

Meanwhile I've found a grid of small blu-tack balls gives a good grip on the underlying surface.
It's main drawback is the time to detach an army from its boz.

Steve, Litko in the US will do custom cut adhesive magnets

Richard

[fred.]

I put magnetic sheet on the bases of all my figures. Then use metal storage containers, or thin steel paper in box files or RUBs.

As for cutting the magnetic sheet - this is very easy to do with a knife and a ruler. I also cut mine a couple of mm smaller than the base they are going on, makes cutting easier, and picking up figures a little easier.

[steve_holmes_11]

Steve, Litko in the US will do custom cut adhesive magnets

Richard

Thanks, I've bought from Litko before.
Thoroughly recommend their products and service.

Unfortunately the import duties are eye watering.
So UK based would suit me best.

[Nick the Lemming]

Thanks, I've bought from Litko before.
Thoroughly recommend their products and service.

Unfortunately the import duties are eye watering.
So UK based would suit me best.

I got some good recommendations here: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,18085.0.html