American War of Independence Rules

[urbancohort]

Dear all; because one can never have enough projects on the go, I am thinking about also starting a small AWI project.
Can anyone please recommend some rules suitable for period/scale?
Thanks

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[Westmarcher]

"Patriots & Loyalists" and "British Grenadier" spring to mind. There's also "Loose Files and American Scramble" (not to be confused with "Loose Flies and A Panicky Scramble ...") and Fat Wally's "Times That Try Men's Souls," which is his variation of "They Couldn't Hit an Elephant."

Unfortunately, I cannot comment on these as I have not played them. However, I have played "Black Powder" which is a good "go to" set with its AWI supplement (no special rules there but thoughtful and considered use of the existing rules plus loads of background info. including army orgs., uniforms and scenarios) and would recommend these. I also recommend Honours of War which, although for the Seven Years War, can be adapted to the AWI (see the Honours of War Forum).

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Black Powder or Volley & Bayonet.

[paulr]

Greg Novak did a very good Wing scale supplement for Volley & Bayonet that gives a very good game

[Lanceflint]

I have just placed a post under the "rules" section regarding a brand new set of AWI rules - Yankee Peas and Crackers!
They sound as if they maybe what you are looking for, simple, fast play, not requiring too many troops but still capable of handling battles.
Lance.

[urbancohort]

I have just placed a post under the "rules" section regarding a brand new set of AWI rules - Yankee Peas and Crackers!
They sound as if they maybe what you are looking for, simple, fast play, not requiring too many troops but still capable of handling battles.
Lance.

Lance, I will check that out, thank you!

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[urbancohort]

Lance, have placed an order on e-bay. Thanks

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[Plampers]

Had a look at sharp practice 2 by too fat lardies?

Great fun especially for smaller size conflicts. I am currently working on 10mm FIW and ACW for it. Though I have just ordered Black powder to try for larger battles.

[old smokie]

Lance, have placed an order on e-bay. Thanks

bought them and tried them a few days ago, I like them 

[Nosher]

Sharp Practice 2 is excellent - ideal for AWI and French Indian Wars. Probably the best set of AWI rules I have ever played

[Nick the Lemming]

My favourites for skirmish are Muskets and Tomahawks and for big battles Maurice.

[Chad]

Guns of Liberty

[cameronian]

FOB 2 for everything.

[Dr Dave]

Dear all; because one can never have enough projects on the go, I am thinking about also starting a small AWI project.
Can anyone please recommend some rules suitable for period/scale?
Thanks

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Black powder and their AWI supplement "Rebellion"

[Chris Pringle]

And in case you don't have enough suggestions yet, you could take a look at what these guys did:
http://twomarshals.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/awi-bloody-big-battles-test-game.html

Chris

Bloody Big BATTLES!
https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/BBB_wargames/info
http://bloodybigbattles.blogspot.co.uk/

[Leman]

'Honours of War,' although written for the SYW, has a number of devotees who have adapted it to the AWI - all the information is obtainable on the HOW website.

[urbancohort]

Thanks to all

[Dave Fielder]

Enjoy this: http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=449965
Honours of War: American War of Independence

The 'Continental' American Troops of the American War of Independence (AWI) were born from rebellion and rejection of Great Britain's insistence on taxation and control over a nation with a strong independent steak. As a result it was initially an army mixed with professional and amateur members, with differing levels of ability and discipline although always highly motivated to continue the was in spite of constant tactical pressure from the British forces. The forces can be broken into those before the Von Steuben Valley Forge reforms and the highly disciplined and effective force, retrained and reinforced with French Allies after Valley Forge. The period from Dec 1777 until June 1778 was a vital time for the future US Army. Von Steuben penned his 'Blue Book' which became the standard US Army Training Manual. These stats should give you a usable army in the Honours of War system; keeping it simple and streamlined don't worry about all those special abilities to leap tall trees and bound through forests, use the rules as written in the book.

Brigade Commanders
Dithering 1-2
Dependable 3-6
Dashing N/A

Move initiative
-1 before Valley Forge
No modifier After Valley Forge

Fire initiative   
No modifier

Formation change
Deduct full move before Valley Forge
Half move after Valley Forge

Movement to flank and rear   
Deduct ¾ move before Valley Forge
Half move after Valley Forge

Artillery   
Deduct full move before Valley Forge
Half move after Valley Forge

Infantry
Militias should be rated as inferior, mainly because they stank of wee a bit like Baldrick. Regular troops should be rated as standard, treat light units as regular due to their prowess in woods and irregular formations.
One light unit can be classed as rifle armed, probably not completely true but this provides a bit of flavour for the army.

Cavalry
Whilst good horseman the Continental Army did not have the training or logistics to properly support a cavalry corps and Von Steuben concentrated on infantry and artillery. Thus cavalry are considered inferior throughout the war.

Artillery
Initially poorly armed and prepared they should be rated inferior prior to Valley Forge and then Standard afterwards.

Generals
Brigade commanders were largely amateur or promoted from lower levels of command. They did get better over time but keep them as per above. George Washington should be rated as Dashing, simply because he was!!

[mart678]

British Grenadier played some very large games using it also has senario's with different figure scale so you can fight the smaller also has the support of 4 very good scenario books

[urbancohort]

Enjoy this: http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=449965
Honours of War: American War of Independence

The 'Continental' American Troops of the American War of Independence (AWI) were born from rebellion and rejection of Great Britain's insistence on taxation and control over a nation with a strong independent steak. As a result it was initially an army mixed with professional and amateur members, with differing levels of ability and discipline although always highly motivated to continue the was in spite of constant tactical pressure from the British forces. The forces can be broken into those before the Von Steuben Valley Forge reforms and the highly disciplined and effective force, retrained and reinforced with French Allies after Valley Forge. The period from Dec 1777 until June 1778 was a vital time for the future US Army. Von Steuben penned his 'Blue Book' which became the standard US Army Training Manual. These stats should give you a usable army in the Honours of War system; keeping it simple and streamlined don't worry about all those special abilities to leap tall trees and bound through forests, use the rules as written in the book.

Brigade Commanders
Dithering 1-2
Dependable 3-6
Dashing N/A

Move initiative
-1 before Valley Forge
No modifier After Valley Forge

Fire initiative   
No modifier

Formation change
Deduct full move before Valley Forge
Half move after Valley Forge

Movement to flank and rear   
Deduct ¾ move before Valley Forge
Half move after Valley Forge

Artillery   
Deduct full move before Valley Forge
Half move after Valley Forge

Infantry
Militias should be rated as inferior, mainly because they stank of wee a bit like Baldrick. Regular troops should be rated as standard, treat light units as regular due to their prowess in woods and irregular formations.
One light unit can be classed as rifle armed, probably not completely true but this provides a bit of flavour for the army.

Cavalry
Whilst good horseman the Continental Army did not have the training or logistics to properly support a cavalry corps and Von Steuben concentrated on infantry and artillery. Thus cavalry are considered inferior throughout the war.

Artillery
Initially poorly armed and prepared they should be rated inferior prior to Valley Forge and then Standard afterwards.

Generals
Brigade commanders were largely amateur or promoted from lower levels of command. They did get better over time but keep them as per above. George Washington should be rated as Dashing, simply because he was!!

Thanks for this. Will be starting on my 10mm AWI as soon as finances permit!

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