Cavalry Squadron

Started by d_Guy, 31 May 2017, 04:01:07 PM

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mollinary

Quote from: Hwiccee on 02 June 2017, 08:33:32 PM
The Williamites were still using old fashioned ECW/TYW style tactics (typically Dutch or Swedish style tactics) while the Jacobites were using the arguably more advanced French style.

Great post Nick. Could you elaborate on this final statement? Do you mean that Williamite Dutch regiments were still fighting six deep?  And what was so advanced about the French style vis a vis the others?  Cheers in advance.

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d_Guy

Quote from: Hwiccee on 02 June 2017, 08:33:32 PM
Always happy to help  :)
...So say a regiment was something like 1000 strong it would fight as 2 battalia and not a single block.


I was really unclear on this point so thanks, in particular, for this. To model battles were large differences in unit sizes existed, I was having to break a large regiment into two battalions  anyway. Just felt constrained that they should be forced (until contact) to maneuver together. A concern I will now happily abandon.  :)

Cheers,
d_guy
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Hwiccee


Quote from: mollinary on 02 June 2017, 08:42:49 PM
Great post Nick. Could you elaborate on this final statement? Do you mean that Williamite Dutch regiments were still fighting six deep?  And what was so advanced about the French style vis a vis the others?  Cheers in advance.

Mollinary

Thanks Andrew. No 6 deep had long gone, or at least as a 'normal' tactic. The tactics of the Williamite troops are a tricky subject but overall they were clearly inferior to the French cavalry at this time. They are probably using the trotting tactics of the Dutch/Swedish system as used in the ECW/later TYW. In any case whether the French cavalry were 'better' was because of the charging at the gallop tactics they developed in the later/post TYW period or just because they had better morale/experience/etc is more of a problem. But the Williamites also found the Jacobite cavalry, who used the same tactics, difficult to handle. This led to the change of tactics of the British/Dutch during the WSS.

So the French style was arguably 'more advanced' than that used by the 'Allies' in the 1680's - 90's and was only matched by them after 1700.


p.s. I look forward to seeing your game at the Joy of Six.



Quote from: d_Guy on 02 June 2017, 10:05:36 PM
I was really unclear on this point so thanks, in particular, for this. To model battles were large differences in unit sizes existed, I was having to break a large regiment into two battalions  anyway. Just felt constrained that they should be forced (until contact) to maneuver together. A concern I will now happily abandon.  :)

Cheers,
d_guy

Glad to help :)

mollinary

Thanks Nick,

Look forward to seeing you there! It is not a big game, which is unusual for me. In fact in 6mm it fits on a 3ft by 2ft table, as opposed to the 6ft by 4ft used when I play it in 10mm.   Nevertheless the  scenario has produced a load of fun games over the last six months (most of which I have lost  >:().

Andrew
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