BKC-III Decision Reached - Please Read!

Started by Leon, 08 May 2017, 10:15:01 PM

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barbarian

Agree about the cover.
What I really liked in the BKCII book too was the pictures of the full armies inside : Gave me the will to purchase miniatures.
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sunjester

A brave decision, but one that seems to be popular. Good luck with the re-write.

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KeithS

09 May 2017, 12:32:47 PM #23 Last Edit: 09 May 2017, 12:37:48 PM by KeithS
I just wanted to wish you well in your re-working of the rules.  It is a great pity that you should need to do so, particularly after your optimism when you launched the rules.  I sincerely hope that the reworking is not too great a strain on yourselves and your company.  I also hope that the end result is that an even better set of rules than any of the predecessors incorporating the best features of all of them.
I'll bring up the rest of the brigade.

Leon

Thanks for the replies so far.

Quote from: petercooman on 09 May 2017, 04:02:03 AM
Just a  minor question, will the rules seek a middle ground or will we revert more to bkc II ? Just a case of knowing what issues  we should bring up. No use working out the details on some things if the whole section is reverted back to bkcII ;)

At this point I don't know, it'll depend on what the issues are for each section really.  As for the new threads, if people can point out anything/everything, then we can look at it.  If we change something as a result, great, but if we don't we'll have the thread open for people to look at and discuss further when the revised edition is done.

Quote from: slugbalancer on 09 May 2017, 07:52:20 AM
Well done for coming to a speedy decision and probably the correct one.  I think naming them as BKC 3.1 may be an error as v3 is so badly tarnished.  Wouldn't it be good to skip straight to BKC4?

Quote from: Orcs on 09 May 2017, 10:03:47 AM
I would go with BKC4. Just to avoid confusion and also a completely different cover.

Quote from: Smoking gun on 09 May 2017, 10:19:58 AM
I do think it's important that whatever the new rules are called there's a completely new and distinctive cover so people are aware they're buying the new version.

We don't have any plans on skipping to BKC-4 at this point, I think III is still fine.  We also won't be changing the cover massively as that will mean more expense on graphic design and we're already facing a £7000 bill for reprinting and shipping the replacements.  There will be some type of note on the cover to show that it's a revised version though.  That could be '3rd Edition+' or '3rd Edition - Revised' something along those lines.

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d_Guy

If only Microsoft were as responsive to users. Very well done!
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quasar42

Your decision is a testament to your high standards of quality and service.  All the best with the rewrite.

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Orcs

Quote from: Leon on 09 May 2017, 01:12:50 PM
  We also won't be changing the cover massively as that will mean more expense on graphic design and we're already facing a £7000 bill for reprinting and shipping the replacements. 

Well I certainly don't want to add to your costs. Could you change the colour of the typeface or spine without adding to the cost, just to differentiate it?
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smallchild139

Wow, great service.  If only all companies looked after their customers this way.


Mark

terry68

Leon and all at Pendraken have shown how companies should respond! Bravo!

Hard work to come, but with good humour, steady resolve and a fanatical support base, easily done!!! ;)

As posted at the very beginning............KEEP CALM AND CARRY ON.

All the best.

Terry.

neilpcegerton

Excellent customer service, just sorry you have all this hassle.

I bought copy at Salute, when do we send these back, now or closer to the time whn the replacement may be ready?

Neil

AJ at the Bank

Thank you Leon

I will endeavour to post rule issues as requested -
Note though - these may not always have suggested fixes.
Some simple issues will be easy to suggest a fix - E.g. re-do Hills).
Others will require playtesting to determine correct fix(es). E.g. Target priorities.
Nevertheless - I think it's important to post all issues in a hope that others suggest the best fix.

Adam
In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

Leon

Quote from: neilpcegerton on 09 May 2017, 06:58:20 PM
I bought copy at Salute, when do we send these back, now or closer to the time whn the replacement may be ready?

Once the new printrun is ready we'll announce it here and then we can work out all of the logistics.  Some folks might prefer to pick up their new copies at a show somewhere as well, so we'll deal with that closer to the time.

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Hastati

Leon,
I'm sure this has been a very difficult decision to take, and one that will adversely affect Pendraken financially.  I know of few, or any, other companies that would have decided to take this course of action.  You and the team should be commended, but above all, supported for having done so.  I will certainly be doing my part to ensure that I continue to buy your products to show that I support your decision and future endeavours.
Regards,
David

GW844

Leon,

A hard but worthwhile decision I believe as your reputation will justifiably remain high.  I look forward to swapping over in due course.

Norm

Superb and responsive support - though it is obviously a regret that you are exposed to such a cost. 

abikapi2

Bought at Wargamevault

I'll wait for the update.

Thank You
Stefano

henryhyde

A brave and bold response, Leon. But then, I would have expected nothing less. I'll pop my copy in the post to you.  =D>