Rommel by Sam Mustafa

[toxicpixie]

Looking cracking!

Tempting...

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Nice ideas

[Nick the Lemming]

For the Rommel playtest, I often used my 3mm stuff, which are on small FoW bases, with a strip at the back for unit details. They worked pretty well that way.

[Fenton]

What websites if any would people recommend to find TOEs etc that would be suitable for Rommel?

Cheers

[doctorphalanx]

As each base represents a company you don't really need to know what the organisation was below company level provided you know what that company's basic equipment was, e.g. did it have Panthers or a Panzer IVs. That sort of information isn't too hard to come by and I expect the army list creator in Rommel and subsequent scenarios will in any event be a good starting point though you may have to research which particular tank variants were around at the time.

If designing realistic forces, historical OOBs are probably more instructive than theoretical TOEs. I'm always interested in OOBs and don't mind paying for books within reason, but I've never really hit gold in that area. I have previously bought some Nafziger data sheets for more obscure conflicts (such as the Chaco War) and I believe it may be a (possibly the) major source for WW2. The website is at http://www.nafzigercollection.com/shop/

I've recently been researching the Battle of France 1940 and have found some useful information online. I will dig out the links if anyone is interested in that particular campaign, but I haven't found a general source of information covering the whole war.

[Nick the Lemming]

I'd go with Nafziger and the Micromark lists on wargamesvault.

[doctorphalanx]

On the subject of OOBs, I generally like to base my wargame armies on forces which participated in a given historical battle or campaign. (My SYW armies, for example, are based on forces present at Rossbach and Leuthen.)

The army creator in Rommel will undoubtedly allow you to create a representative force while the historical scenarios will prescribe more rigidly what you should have for a particular battle.

As a basis for either approach my ideal starting point would be to model complete historical divisions. Who could resist the appeal of carrying a whole division  in a shoe box?

[Shecky]

I came across this site many years ago when I thought about writing my own grid based WWII corps level miniature game:

http://www.niehorster.org/000_admin/000oob.htm

Luckily Sam wrote just what I was looking for

[doctorphalanx]

This is a good source for the French Army of 1940: http://www.littlewars.se/french1940/oob.html

For the Germans I have the Osprey 'Panzer Divisions: The Blitzkrieg Years 1939-40'.

Bob Mackenzie's webpages at http://www.testofbattle.com/upload/bob/ are very useful indicators even if you're not using the same rules.

Wikipedia is also a good place to start for specific battles.

[doctorphalanx]

On reflection the data sheets I referred to must have been MicroMark. Nafziger may be the final word but buying all the books necessary would be very expensive.

The Axis History Forum https://forum.axishistory.com/ also has some links to source material.

[Fenton]

Thanks for all the links there all a great help

[Ithoriel]

Been doing some research for my soon to be collected (Claymore 2017 Yay!) 3mm stuff.

Found these links interesting

http://www.kerynne.com/games/britishinfantrybttntoe.html

http://balagan.info/infantry-unit-frontages-during-ww2

http://zesilvaleite.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/WWII%20Army%20Lists

The last one has loads of army lists not just the Japanese one linked. See the side bar on the right of the blog page.

[doctorphalanx]

Some brilliant stuff here:

https://web.archive.org/web/20160425143250/http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/General/site_map.htm

Currently archived but rumoured to be coming back.

[fred.]

The PDF version of Rommel is available now. Bought a copy earlier and have been having a good read through.

Like what I see - want to start building some armies, and testing the mechanics - but I'm away for a couple of days so can't yet!