Master list for the new Korean War range - Input required!

Started by Leon, 25 October 2016, 08:44:17 PM

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Which of these ranges would you be most likely to buy first?

American - Early war kit
11 (20.8%)
American - Later war kit
18 (34%)
British - Tropical kit
7 (13.2%)
British - Commandos
11 (20.8%)
British - Later war kit
21 (39.6%)
North Korean
32 (60.4%)
South Korean
12 (22.6%)
Chinese - Summer kit
12 (22.6%)
Chinese - Winter kit
25 (47.2%)

Total Members Voted: 53

Sunray

Quote from: Techno on 05 March 2017, 06:04:37 PM
I learn more and more, each day. Thanks, Gents.  :)

Presumably......If you were to fire a bazooka in a prone position......You'd have to be a bit careful that you didn't get a scorched backside, or leg.  X_X

Cheers - Phil.

Can be done - the M20 had that frame which might have been an issue - the real hazard with both types of weapon is the back blast - so it was the No2 who had to watch his arse, leg or more likely ....his ear!

Mako

I've seen some photos of them being fired prone.

That's why the M20 has a bipod, which is useless for kneeling or standing and firing.

Of course, it would be of use when firing from foxholes or trenches too.

http://regimentalrogue.tripod.com/blog/M20_3-5-inch_rocket_launcher_009_600px.jpg

http://www.koreanwaronline.com/history/oz/OzImage/bazsup.jpg

http://www.koreanwaronline.com/arms/images/35three.jpg

http://modernfirearms.net/userfiles/images/grenade/m20/1301229055.jpg

Online drawings/instructions show that a 30 - 90 degree angle from the weapon being fired is best:

http://www.ctia.com.cn/TungstenNews/UploadFiles_7335/200912/20091206235535245.gif

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/23-25/23250059.gif

Here's a link to some pics of the B-300 bazooka being fired from the prone position too.  Direct link doesn't work for me, but you can see it (currently one row down from the top, at least for me, on the left).  It looks very similar to the M20 bazooka. 

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1280&bih=631&q=3.5%22+bazooka+firing+prone&oq=3.5%22+bazooka+firing+prone&gs_l=img.3...1772.11686.0.12073.25.14.0.11.0.0.397.1797.4j9j0j1.14.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.13.1672...0j0i24k1.oLjOdsAU5XQ#hl=en&tbm=isch&q=prone+b300+bazooka+&*&imgrc=_&spf=2008






Sunray

Thanks Rob.

These images are indeed most useful.

The first image intrigues me!  British Battle Dress, 37 patt web, and an American grease gun SMG !
Not the post war late Sten or early Stirling that you would expect.

The key question is the origin of the image.  It looks like a posed training manual set up.

41 Commando Royal Marines used US kit and uniforms in Korea, but if them - why Battle Dress ?
Can't be Aussie as they had the Owen.
Could be Canadian . But was the M3 issued to Canadians ?

Mako

I was wondering about that too.

Sometimes, if you click on the link, to the left of the button to increase the size of the photo in Google Images, it will lead you to a page that provides more info.

I honestly don't know who is using it that way, but suspect perhaps it is the Danes, since they apparently wore surplus British uniforms after WWII, and some of their squad leaders, and/or others (?) used SMGs.  

They also had a lot of American weapons too, so that seems like a probable source.

Ah, looks like perhaps I'm wrong, given the Canadian pamphlet (lots of good photos of it in use here as well):

http://regimentalrogue.tripod.com/blog/index.blog/2335550/35inch-rocket-launcher-m20-super-bazooka/

Here's a quote from one of the links at the bottom of the page, on the left:  

"Super-Bazooka can be fired off the shoulder, thanks to the skeletonized shoulder stock attached below the rear part of the barrel, and an optional folding bipod can be fitted to fire weapon from prone, supported position. Some Super-Bazooka launchers were also provided with retractable support monopod, located in front of the shoulder stock".

Finally, here's the link to the Field Manual for the 3.5" Bazooka (it's a free PDF):

http://www.koreanwaronline.com/history/Bazooka/1.pdf

Page 3 of the M20 Field Manual shows photos of the standing, sitting, and prone firing positions. 

The latter is aligned to the weapon like your M72 LAW gunner is (legs about 70+ degrees away from the weapon's barrel axis), so perhaps he might be just modified a bit to make him a M20 3.5" Bazooka Gunner firing from the prone position.

Sunray

Well sourced Rob!  I have no idea why Canadian Army should pose with M3 Grease Gun.  Although no doubt they held small stocks for training purposes - or indeed joint ventures with US Army ?

Duke Speedy of Leighton

Don't don't realise the loader was on that side and had his feet f'ward t'ward the enemy to reload!
Might have to rebase some figures!  :D
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Sunray

I wouldn't bother.  It is a highly exaggerated drill book pose.   In combat the prone firing position would be a lot more concealed - no one - not even a Jock in a kilt - turns his exposed arse on the enemy at close range !  :d

In prone firing of the Charlie G, the No2 faced the same way as the No1 and usually used left hand to support the barrel.   Their bodies would be in a mirror image V
with the 84mm nestling between them.  As a No2 you need to be cognisant if your shot missed/ F/P compromised and you need another position.

Ian can confirm, but I suspect the M20 Bazooka had a similar deployment 

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Sunray

I have the highest respect for our Canadian cousins in terms of their battle skills.  But its the nerds that write manuals and what works/looks good on the firing range.

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Sunray

Rumour Control has got a tipoff that some images of the North Korean master sculpts might be coming to a screen near you.

We can't start the war without the North Koreans !

Sunray

Leon, can you wet appetites with a peek at some of Phil's masters ??? =D>

Leon

Quote from: Sunray on 01 May 2017, 02:47:04 PM
Leon, can you wet appetites with a peek at some of Phil's masters ??? =D>

As soon as the sculpts arrive with us here, I'll get some photos taken for everyone.
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Techno

Dammit !!!  >:( >:( >:(

I've lost the piccies that Nobby posted of American troops 'marching' away from the camera.

I feel I've checked all the appropriate threads, but can't find it anywhere.

Any ideas/links, Chaps.

Cheers - Phil.

fsn

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Techno

Hmmmm......Don't think it was, Nobby......But I'll go and check that thread out.

I know I lost and found this on a previous occasion.

Ahhhh.....Did I use the word 'Huzzah', in that thread......Gives me something else to search for.
Fingers crossed.

Cheers - Phil

Sunray

Quote from: Techno on 15 May 2017, 11:14:09 AM
Hmmmm......Don't think it was, Nobby......But I'll go and check that thread out.

I know I lost and found this on a previous occasion.

Ahhhh.....Did I use the word 'Huzzah', in that thread......Gives me something else to search for.
Fingers crossed.

Cheers - Phil

Phil - try the "help needed" thread , under General/Period discussion "Modern" see Nobby's posting 28/29 January.    James

Techno

That's the kiddie, James ! :-bd

Thanks, Matey.  :)

Cheers - Phil

fsn

Gentlemen!

I have been on the website of the 10mm producer whose name rhymes with "Spithead". They have flags showing for North and South Korea, but not China.

Have they caught wind of the Dark Lord's scheme and plan to steal a march on his light-absorbing presence?

Have these flags been flying for long? I haven't visited the website for many months.
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Sunray

Yes Nobby. They have been up since the new year. Usual idiosyncratic style of awkward poses.  The first sculpts from Phil must be close to casting !!