Proxies for 16C/17C Maghrebi?

[GrumpyOldMan]

Hello

I was thinking about this and I was wondering if anybody else had gone down this path?

Figures necessary would be Sipahis with armour but no bow.

I was thinking about using the Mahdist armoured cavalry:-



Tribal cavalry with lance

This one has me stumped, since I don't think the Arab medium cavalry fits the bill.

Tribal infantry armed with spear or sword.

Thought about using the Mahdist turbanned tribesmen mixed with some Afghani infantry, any other ideas?



Arquebus armed infantry, the firearm Afghans from above.

Artillery crews from the Afghan artillery:-



Janissaries and camelry are easy.

Anybody have any other thoughts?

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[Ithoriel]

Can't remember why I bookmarked it now but I here's an extract from a Portuguese film about The Battle of Alcácer Quibir in 1578.

Known as The Battle of Ksar El Kebir, The Battle of Three Kings, The Battle of Oued El Makhazeen in Morocco, and The Battle of Alcácer Quibir in Portugal it was fought in northern Morocco, near the town of Ksar-el-Kebir between Tangier and Fez, on 4 August 1578.  The exiled Abu Abdallah Mohammed II Saadi, of the Saadi dynasty, backed by King Sebastian of Portugal was defeated by a large Moroccan army under the Sultan of Morocco (and uncle of Abu Abdallah Mohammed II Saadi) Abd Al-Malik of the Saadi dynasty.

Right area, right period but as to authenticity I couldn't say. 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Hi

Thanks for that Ithoriel. Yes I've seen the film. I have been interested in the Battle of al Qasr al Kabir ever since seeing the dioramas in Tangier:-





and the Battle of Songhai



In 30mm by Edward Suren (Willie).

Will go away and have a think on what I can use for tribal cavalry and what I can proxy-siphy for garrison ginetes as well .



Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[FierceKitty]

Did they USE Janissaries? I know less than I should about this lot.

[GrumpyOldMan]

Hello FK

Whether they used actual Janissaries is largely conjectural but Libya, Tunisia and Algeria were all ruled by the Ottomans, and Ottomans also allied with the Moroccans.

This page from the Met Museum is a nice little summary. http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/ht/09/afw.html

If you can stand it,  Wikipedia also has some pages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_Tunisia, etc.

So while they may not have been Janissaries, as such, right throughout the Ottoman occupation, there were definitely Ottoman aligned troops stationed in North Africa. Using Janissaries just makes it easier to distinguish them with my tired old eyes.

In any case Janissaries would probably have looked different anyway in campaign dress:-



Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

[FierceKitty]

Interesting.