Yes, but which Napoleonic 1813-15 army?

[fsn]

Dark Lord, Milady, Lord High Admiral Techno of Emergeny Ward 10, Gentlemen of the Forum, and Westmarcher.

These new Prussians and the impending Brunswickers are disconcerting me. I want late Napoleonic armies ... but which ones?

I like to model my armies on real ones, using OOBs as a basis for my little men. I don't think I;m unusual in that. However, for the late Napoleonic period I have three choices. 1) The Peninsula War, specifically Vittoria 2) The Northern European Campaigns of 1813-14, specifically Leipzig and  3) Waterloo.

Eventually I want British, Prussian, Russian. Austrian, Bavarian, Portuguese, Swedish and ... French. Russians, Austrians, Swedes, Portuguese and Bavarians are no problem (yes I know the Bavarians weren't at Leipzig) but the Prussians. French and Brits are causing me brain scratch. not too many Cuirassiers in the Peninsula, nor were there Scots Greys.

My only solution is to have "additional" units that I can swap in and out depending upon where I'm fighting. British infantry can be changed by swapping the flag groups, though the 33rd would have to be constituted separately.

Any tips, hints or suggestions?   

 

[petercooman]

Peninsula will be hard without any stovepipe shakos in the british range.

I think battle of leipzig would be nice starting point!

[FierceKitty]

I suspect you'll ignore me, and no offense will be taken thereat, but I'm usually willing to stretch a few years. Thus I have the 2nd Royal North Dragoons in my army for the Sudan, whereas in reality they only supplied some troopers to the Camel Corps, and I allow Nobunaga and Shingen to take the field against each other, though I think in reality they were both too cautious to risk banging heads.

[fsn]

No offence at all. I'm quite flexible on these things.

The French infantry will be the French infantry.

[Ithoriel]

Figure in blue jacket, white trousers - French

Same figure in green jacket, white trousers - Russian

Same figure in red jacket, grey trousers - British

I'm having to use Syrians as Amurru, Libyans as Lullubi and New Kingdom Egyptians as Old Kingdom - the odd pom-pom or turnback adrift is neither here nor there by comparison.

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Bavarians were involved in the campaigns of 1813-14, but didn't make it to the battle of nations due to being stomped on by Napoleon at Hanau

[Wulf]

Figure in blue jacket, white trousers - French

Same figure in green jacket, white trousers - Russian

Same figure in red jacket, grey trousers - British

...same figure in brown trousers - routed unit.

Wulf

[petercooman]

 

[Westmarcher]

[Dammit - someone else must have said my name two times before fsn did]

Very drole, Mr Wulf.   

I would personally opt for "2) The Northern European Campaigns of 1813-14, specifically Leipzig". More armies; French, Prussian, Russian, Austrian, Swedish, Saxons, Wurtemburg, other Confederation of the Rhine States, Italian and a contingent of British rocket troops. Also, Bavaria.

Granted, a good variety of armies in the Peninsular - e.g., British (incl. KGL, Brunswicker skirmisher coys.), Portuguese, French, German States, Italians and Spanish - but I used to have Peninsular Armies and got fed up with Line v. Column in most of the games I played. No Cuirassiers in Spain as we know it as far as I know it (French ones, that is). Yes, there were 2 French Cuirassier Regts. (in Catalonia?) but they left their cuirasses behind in the depot. Don't know if it was an economy measure or simply too hot to wear these in the Spanish summer (can imagine a whistling noise from a passing regiment as the steam blasted out the Troopers' ears  ).

Oh, yes, and Bavaria in 1813 Mr Lemmey. The Bavarian army were beaten at Hanau in the French retreat after Leipzig - back to school for you. 

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Haven't broken up yet Westie, two days to go! 

[d_Guy]

...same figure in brown trousers - routed unit.

Wulf

This too will likely be ignored but..
I have been considering taking my 20mm Der Kriegspielers Waterloo British from 40 years ago and pairing them with the Borodino Russians (as the Americans) to do the War of 1812. Green coats painted blue, greatcoats becoming blanket coats, etc. Not sure what to make of the Cossack lancers...yet. I think having the 10th Hussars and Scot's Greys at Lundy's Lane will be spectacular.

[Rob]

Why don't you do all three? Was the Belgic shako in use at Vittorio. After that there was a whole campaign in 1814 to get through the Pyrenees. The main problem with the peninsular for me is it would need Portuguese as an integral part of nearly all infantry divisions and Spanish would often be present also. Hardly worth bothering with the British in Germany, but when the Brits with stovepipes are released they will also make excellent Prussian reserve infantry regiments.  

Cheers, Rob  

[petercooman]

I guess you could easily do a paintjob conversion on british with belgic shako for the early portugese.