Movement tray sabots SP2

Started by Nosher, 15 May 2016, 03:08:09 PM

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Nosher

I know other MDF base suppliers do such items but frankly I've been left disappointed at their quallity.

Is there any chance of rectangular 2mm MDF movement sabots with circular slots for 2mm mdf bases in one penny piece diameters such as the below:

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Wulf

I use 10mm washers as bases... just saying...  :-[

Leon

That's no bother at all, if you can you drop me an email with the external dimensions and how many you want, and we'll get those sorted out for you.
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d_Guy

Leon,
Out of curiosity are you interested in doing even more customized sabots? Specifically various curvilinear shapes with a varying number of holes. Not sure that I could buy enough to make it worth your while (unless your laser set-up cost is trivial  :))
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Leon

Quote from: d_Guy on 17 May 2016, 03:06:43 AM
Out of curiosity are you interested in doing even more customized sabots? Specifically various curvilinear shapes with a varying number of holes. Not sure that I could buy enough to make it worth your while (unless your laser set-up cost is trivial  :))

We do want to start producing a whole range of movement trays, it's just finding the time to sit and design them all.  Our software is slightly limited though in that it only really does polygons and circles, so anything irregular for skirmish troops is difficult to do.  We were looking for a designer for lasercutting earlier this year, to make everything easier, but didn't have any luck finding anyone.
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d_Guy

Thanks Leon - this is a down-the-road project for me so you may actually be producing them by then :)
I will being using US pennies for bases but it sounds like cutting a smaller diameter is no problem for you.

Another question for anyone. Since the 2mm MDF is cut all the way through (I assume), is a thin veneer then added to one side to make the tray bottom?
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Leon

Quote from: d_Guy on 17 May 2016, 06:47:16 PM
Another question for anyone. Since the 2mm MDF is cut all the way through (I assume), is a thin veneer then added to one side to make the tray bottom?

The trays are usually 2 sheets of MDF, so they are 4mm high overall.  The top sheet has the cutouts, the bottom sheet is solid.  I think some companies offer a bottom sheet in a thinner plywood, but those tend to be more expensive and then don't match with other companies trays heightwise.
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Genom

I'm sure I've seen someone offering just the top layer as well, so that you can stick it onto magnetic sheet/steel sheet etc.

fred.

Yes, I've seen those too. Though the overall base may be rather flimsy. With a solid 2mm base the figures really stay in place, when you pick up the tray.

I was initially a bit worried about the total thickness, but once you are playing you don't notice.
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Wulf

What quantities would PD be willing to produce custom sabot bases in? I'd be looking for bases with 8 & 10 10mm diameter holes (in 2 rows), but I'd only need a couple of dozen of each, maximum (and with no 'blank' baseplate, a 4mm base is too thick for my liking).

I was going to produce my own with holes punched in cardboard...

Wulf

Quote from: Wulf on 18 May 2016, 07:56:27 AM
What quantities would PD be willing to produce custom sabot bases in?
Just realised which forum this is on...

What quantities would MINIBITS be willing to produce custom sabot bases in?  =)

d_Guy

Quote from: Wulf on 18 May 2016, 02:03:08 PM
Just realised which forum this is on...

What quantities would MINIBITS be willing to produce custom sabot bases in?  =)
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Leon

Quote from: Wulf on 18 May 2016, 02:03:08 PM
What quantities would MINIBITS be willing to produce custom sabot bases in?  =)

Minimum order of 1 please!  We do custom trays quite regularly for various customers, so just drop me an email with your requirements and we'll get them sorted out for you.
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Wulf

Quote from: Leon on 18 May 2016, 05:38:24 PM
Minimum order of 1 please! 
But I only want the top half!  :'(

OK, will consider exactly what I'm looking for & order. Unlike many, I haven't fully digested SP2 yet, so I'm not certain...

Leon

Quote from: Wulf on 18 May 2016, 08:59:58 PM
But I only want the top half!  :'(

OK, will consider exactly what I'm looking for & order. Unlike many, I haven't fully digested SP2 yet, so I'm not certain...

No worries, and just the top half is not a problem.
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fred.

Leon made me some sabots with 1p and 2p holes to convert various command figures to command bases for Warband. Very straight forward, and the end result looks good.
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Wulf

How much of a gap do you recommend between holes, at a minimum? I'm trying to decide whether to have two rows 'square' (as illustrated in the first post), or 'zig-zag' staggered so the back row doesn't stick their bayonets in the front row's earholes...

I'll be looking for a couple dozen with 6 12mm holes in to rows of 3, and a couple dozen with 8 holes in two rows of 4, either way...

I thought these washers were 10mm diameter, they're not, they're 12mm...

Leon

Quote from: Wulf on 19 May 2016, 10:40:46 PM
How much of a gap do you recommend between holes, at a minimum? I'm trying to decide whether to have two rows 'square' (as illustrated in the first post), or 'zig-zag' staggered so the back row doesn't stick their bayonets in the front row's earholes...

For circles, you can get away with as little as 0.5-1mm as the shapes curve away from each other and there's not much stress on the closest point.  With squares, you want a little more, so 2mm or above to give some strength to that strip of MDF. 

An alternative is to remove the dividing strip altogether, so for your first base, you'd have a hole of 36mm x 12mm to allow 3 bases to sit in it.  This option depends on how you want them to look, close ranked or spread out?
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bradpitre

Good evening!!
I would be very interested in a series of stand for "Blücher" (perhaps 60)
the ideal would be 64mm front x 50mm deep with a reservation of 60mm x 40mm in 2mm forward and two cuts of 5mm x 5mm at the rear to place the loss dice ........ Does this seem possible?
no solid basis, I prefer to find more ending

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Quote from: bradpitre on 20 May 2016, 05:52:00 PM
the ideal would be 64mm front x 50mm deep with a reservation of 60mm x 40mm in 2mm forward and two cuts of 5mm x 5mm at the rear to place the loss dice ........ Does this seem possible?
no solid basis, I prefer to find more ending

That would be fine, not a problem at all.  We normally make the internal hole a little bigger, to make sure your bases fit in easily.  This would mean an internal space of 61x41mm.  Would it be OK to increase the external size to 65x51mm?  This would allow a 2mm margin around all of your bases.

Also, do you want the two dice holes on the same side, or one on each side at the rear of the base?
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