Help with codes for TYW Imperials?

[pessa]

Hi all, just looking for some advice from those who know. Totally new to 10mm and the TYW but we decided for pike and shot it might be the perfect scale (and the Pendraken armoured ecw pikemen figure sold me).

Just wanted to confirm I'm on the right track re codes for a TYW Imperial Army-

Pike: EC1 armoured pike (read somewhere EC2 unarmoured pike is unsuitable due to the hat?)

Musketeer: YW1

Cuirassier: EC11   

Light guns: EC6

Medium guns: EC7


What would I use for heavy guns?
What would be the most appropriate code for mounted and dismounted Imperial dragoons?
What are the most appropriate codes for mounted generals? There are none in the TYW range but I'm hoping some of the ecw one's might suit?

Thanks very much for any help

Cheers and good gaming...

[Steve J]

No idea I'm afraid but welcome on board

[Techno]

A very warm welcome from me to, Pessa.

Sorry....I'm in the same 'no idea' boat as Steve....But someone will be along to help you, soon, I'm sure.

Cheers - Phil

[Nosher]

Welcome to the forum. 

Mix and match with the ECW range. The ECW Generals are lovely. Your code selections are spot on but as said dont be frightened to add in lots of ECW figures if you really want a rag tag look to your imperials. You can even add in some of the Elizabethan range - those with Morion helmets.

In slow time I am going to be adding a few units to my TYW collection and this will be the route I will go.

Look forward to some piccies

[fsn]

Greeting Pessa, and welcome to the Forum.

As Comrade Nosher has ably demonstrated, you will find us, and by "us" I mean everybody else, informed and experienced. They even know something about the Pendraken ranges and how to use them. Citizen Steve and Friend Techno also demonstrate the friendliness of the community.

Think of me as a spambot. I very rarely have anything sensible to say, unless it's got some sort of large calibre gun and tracks, and pop up at the most peculiar times with seemingly inane babble. This is actually well crafted, erudite and witty banter, but largely goes over the heads of the rabble.

Anyway, welcome.  I'd love to help, but my interest sort of peters out between 1450 and 1704. I've also got a blind spot between 1770 and 1790. Apart from that I'm there - except Fantasy. Never could quite move up from skirmish level fantasy ... OK Dungeons and Dragons ... but apart from 1450-1704, 1770-1790 and Fantasy, I'm your man, but I don't really do ultra modern. I'm fine with Korea, Viet Nam and 1973, but bit leery of the Falklands. And of course Colonial Campaigns. Zulus, Boers, Maoris ... perhaps it's the politics, perhaps it's the technology, but I can't get my juices going for Colonials. But apart from pike and shotte, AWI, fantasy, ultra-modern and colonials , I am a font of ... and Asia. I'm very poor on Asia. Not so hot on South America.

Shall we just stick to 1939-1975 and call it quits? 

 

[Duke Speedy of Leighton]

Hello and welcome!

[pessa]

Many thanks to all for the warm welcome. And for the advice.

fsn, heh I know what you mean about the colonial era, I was the same. But recently a friend encouraged me to 'give it ago.' All of a sudden it's branched out into me painting up Zulu British, Turks from the 'war vs the Russians I can't remember the year of' AND Franco Prussian war French. 30 years, both as an amateur and professional I have been painting miniatures, but I had no idea the French Franco Prussian army was such a looker!

Anyway, the colonial era has certainly caused me to branch out. I'm currently reading "the scramble for Africa." The era as a whole has been a pleasing surprise.



   

[fsn]

I did read a few books on the Zulus, and did wonder about Shaka's wars as an alternative to the well trodden 1879 affaire.

[Orcs]

Welcome Pessa

I have no idea with the codes suggested, I already have too many projects on the go, and if I looked at more lovely figures from other periods would be tempted to try them.

[Ithoriel]

Hi Pessa and welcome to the forum.

Good advice already given on suitable figures so I will content myself with observing that the further back in time we go the less certainty we have as to uniforms worn and weapons used and the more leeway we have in what we deploy on table.

My relaxed approach to what constitutes "a suitable figure for" possibly explains my current foray into 6mm Sumerians. The passage of five thousand years makes for rather fewer opportunities for people to go "you've got the uniform detail wrong."

Personally I use whatever figures look right to me and which are identifiable by my opponents. Within reason (ie no Macedonian pikemen or British riflemen) the worst people can accurately say is,"I've never seen an illustration of a soldier looking exactly like that." Well, unless you game with a bunch of 500-year olds that is!

[Techno]

.with a bunch of 500-year olds that is!

Did someone call ?

I'll get that in before anyone else does. 

Cheers - Phil

[Zippee]

Hi all, just looking for some advice from those who know. Totally new to 10mm and the TYW but we decided for pike and shot it might be the perfect scale (and the Pendraken armoured ecw pikemen figure sold me).

Just wanted to confirm I'm on the right track re codes for a TYW Imperial Army-

Pike: EC1 armoured pike (read somewhere EC2 unarmoured pike is unsuitable due to the hat?)

Musketeer: YW1

Cuirassier: EC11  

Light guns: EC6

Medium guns: EC7


What would I use for heavy guns?
What would be the most appropriate code for mounted and dismounted Imperial dragoons?
What are the most appropriate codes for mounted generals? There are none in the TYW range but I'm hoping some of the ecw one's might suit?

Hope this helps

Foot
EC01 is armoured in morion with cuirass and tassets - 2 poses, standing and marching
EC02 is in buff coat - 2 poses, standing in hat and marching in cap
EC03 is in cap - 2 poses, firing with rest, loading
EC14 is in hat - 2 poses, firing with rest, loading
EC28 is in hat - 1 pose, firing (no rest)
EC36 is in tunic/short buff coat - 2 poses, marching in hat, marching in cap (both with rest)
EC37 is in tunic/short buff coat and hat - 2 poses, ready/cocking, advancing porte arms (both with no rest)

Dragoons
EC04 is in tunic and peaked cap - 1 pose, advancing porte arms
EC27 is in tunic/short buff coat and morion - 1 pose, ready/cocking

Horse
EC11 is in 3/4 armour and lobster - 1 officer, 1 standard bearer, 1 trumpeter, 6 troopers with pistol, 6 troopers with sword
EC09 is in cuirass, buff coat and hat - 1 officer, 1 standard bearer, 1 trumpeter, 12 troopers with sword in 2 poses
EC10 is in cuirass, buff coat and lobster - 1 officer, 1 standard bearer, 1 trumpeter, 12 troopers with pistol in 2 poses
EC12 is in buff coat - 1 officer, 1 standard bearer, 1 trumpeter, 6 dragoons in hat with carbine, 6 dragoons in cap with carbine

I haven't seen any of the (limited) TYW range so can't say how YW01 differs from the ECW musketeers or how the arquebusiers differ from the ECW dragoons. I suspect YW03 is a repurposed EC11 in burgonet.

Heavy gun is probably a medium with more crew otherwise you can find heavy guns in the Polish, Ottoman and Elizabethan ranges that you might repurpose

I've listed all the likely candidates for TYW dragoons above, take your pick

Again pick and choose commanders form the ECW range

If you haven't already you can see some of my WIP figures here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/zippee/albums/72157667670885881

there are descriptions with most of the pictures identifying the codes used.

[Shedman]

I played my first TYW game last Thursdays - ok it was in 15mm but I'm giving it a go in 10mm using the same basing system, 40x40mm,  so I reckon I can get at least 20 figs on a base

Here is an AAR

http://twomarshals.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/thirty-years-war-game-1.html

Alan

PS welcome

[mollinary]

Hi Alan,

I base my 10mms for the ECW ON 1 1/2" squares, so about 37 1/2mm.   I can get four pikes wide comfortably, so my pike blocks have 16 figures plus officers and flags.  I like my musketeers doubled up into two ranks so have only 10 of those, plus an officer or sergeant or drummer in the rear.  This makes a standard unit, about 40figures strong in a line about 120mm wide. You could certainly add a third line of musketeers, and take the unit size up to about fifty.

Mollinary

[GrumpyOldMan]

Hello pessa

For heavy artillery you could look at using the 12pdr from the league of Augsburg range.

http://www.pendraken.co.uk/LOA23-p6640/



Cheers

GrumpyOldMan