Bronze age battle site discovered

Started by Steve J, 28 March 2016, 04:35:27 PM

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Duke Speedy of Leighton

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Ithoriel

Interesting read, thanks for the link.

As said in the article, not entirely unexpected given what was happening in the rest of the world but the chances of actually finding this must be tiny! Makes me wonder how many other similar sites are lost under water, earth or sand.
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Techno

Seconded !  :)

I'll have a much more thorough read tomorrow.

(The flint arrowhead in the top of some poor b*gger's arm......For some reason, that makes me wince more than the bronze arrowhead in the skull......Eeek !)

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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Probably because the flint impact had started to heal! The guy must have been in agony.
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Ithoriel

I don't believe it had started to heal. It was believed to be the case initially but later the "healing" turned out to be bone crushed, compressed and fused by the impact of the arrow. But, naturally, after an afternoon of following links and reading various reports I can't remember where that was said. Doh!
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ronan

Good find ! thanks for sharing !

Quote from: Ithoriel on 28 March 2016, 07:57:49 PM
I don't believe it had started to heal. It was believed to be the case initially but later the "healing" turned out to be bone crushed, compressed and fused by the impact of the arrow. But, naturally, after an afternoon of following links and reading various reports I can't remember where that was said. Doh!

In the main post, may be ?  ;)
"Microscopic inspection of that wound told a different story: What initially looked like healing—an opaque lining around the arrowhead on an x-ray—was, in fact, a layer of shattered bone, compressed by a single impact that was probably fatal. "That let us revise the idea that this took place over weeks," Terberger says. So far no bodies show healed wounds, making it likely the battle happened in just a day, or a few at most. "If we are dealing with a single event rather than skirmishes over several weeks, it has a great impact on our interpretation of the scale of the conflict."


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Ithoriel

28 March 2016, 09:43:13 PM #9 Last Edit: 28 March 2016, 09:52:17 PM by Ithoriel
I'm intrigued by this article - not entirely convinced but interesting hypothesis and good for providing possible context.

http://oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/tollense-battle.html

For a more scholarly analysis there is

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/250308033_A_Bronze_Age_Battlefield_Weapons_and_Trauma_in_the_Tollense_Valley_north-eastern_Germany
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Incredibly interesting story, thanks for the link! I did a quick search and saw that this is a period/region with few  options. In 15mm, Falcon used to make a figures (which appear to not be in production) and then you have Mick Yarrow's range. I haven't seen the MY figures, some ranges are very nice and some are more pedestrian. In 25mm, you have Foundry which look great but are way too big and expensive for my taste. Unfortunately no 10mm options that I can see (which is my preferred scale).
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Quote from: Leman on 30 March 2016, 02:32:34 PM
Nothing among the Warband Barbarians that could be used?

It's the equivalent of gaming Napoleonics where the only figures available are a British rifleman figure, a FPW French Grenadier figure and a model of Malborough. Elsewhere on the forum people are agonizing over the length of coat tails, the width of lapels and the length of plumes!!
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Very interesting read

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